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Re:Why 4,998 died in U.S. jails before their day in court by cm2187 on Friday October 16, 2020 @04:42PM (#24804848)
The article is pretty bad. It starts as an anecdote about an inmate beaten to death by the wards, like if it was representative, but then the overwhelming majority of deaths are a result of diseases, overdoses and suicides. Also no reference to the denominator, so you can’t really tell if there is an over mortality in jail vs outside (particularly for the subset of the population that is likely to end up in jail - drug addicts, people with mental problems, etc).
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Re:Why 4,998 died in U.S. jails before their day in court by komali2 on Friday October 16, 2020 @04:44PM (#24804866)
Isn't the denominator a number that happens to also the vast majority of the world's imprisoned?

Nothing you're saying makes me think any of this is ok lol.

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Re:Why 4,998 died in U.S. jails before their day in court by alexchamberlain on Friday October 16, 2020 @04:57PM (#24804989)
I'm not disagreeing with your point in anyway, but just a point of reference: the article is talking about American jails, as opposed to American prisons. If I understand it correctly, once convicted, most people would be sent to a prison.

I don't think such a distinction is made elsewhere (at least not in the UK).

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Re:Why 4,998 died in U.S. jails before their day in court by futurehero on Friday October 16, 2020 @05:36PM (#24805286)
For reference, post-conviction, those sentenced to a year or less remain in jails, while those sentenced to a year and a day or more go to prisons. Prison is actually preferable over jail for most incarcerated individuals, as jails tend to be more tightly controlled than prisons, which function like their own societies with built-in, tractable hierarchies. People in prisons behave, in a sense, because they have to live together.
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Re:Why 4,998 died in U.S. jails before their day in court by cm2187 on Friday October 16, 2020 @04:48PM (#24804908)
Well, that’s the point. The larger the population in jail, the more likely you will have deaths in jails. It doesn’t means the death is caused by the imprisonment. Particularly for a high risk population.
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