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Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by kebman on Friday October 16, 2020 @01:19AM (#24797736)
Chicken is notorious for developing bad bacteria when it gets old. I know two people who got badly sick from eating chicken, and so they'll never ever eat it again. I like it though, but I'll never eat it past the expiry date.

AFAIK if meat products start smelling, especially ammonium, then it's time to ditch it.

Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by DanBC on Friday October 16, 2020 @06:32AM (#24799407)
> AFAIK if meat products start smelling,

The smell is telling you that the meat is rotting and needs to be destroyed. But meat that is fresh and has no bad odour can be contaminated. You cannot use smell to tell if meat is contaminated or not.

We don't eat raw chicken, even if it's very fresh, because of the risk of food poisoning from things like campylobacter.

You need to be careful with cooked then chilled rice because of the risk of bacillus cereus. It won't smell bad. It can be an unpleasant food poisoning.

Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by cgriswald on Friday October 16, 2020 @02:03AM (#24797954)
Our dog once ate some bad meat and got sick. Since then we’ve used her nose to tell us of questionable meat is bad or not. If she will eat it, it’s okay. So far she hasn’t lead us astray.
Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Friday October 16, 2020 @09:37AM (#24800684)
My dog has a great nose and loves to dig up the nuts squirrels bury in our yard for a snack. But he also eats cat poop so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by Broken_Hippo on Friday October 16, 2020 @12:57PM (#24802676)
Chicken doesn't need to be bad or even have a smell to make you sick: It merely needs to be improperly stored or improperly cooked. Back when I ate meat, I tended to overcook chicken if I couldn't test the temperature (and preferred it a bit overcooked, honestly).
Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by mhh__ on Friday October 16, 2020 @01:54AM (#24797913)
Exactly. If you aren't careful around chicken it's almost Darwin at work.

I assume this is why chicken is usually overcooked in restaurants.

Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by copperx on Friday October 16, 2020 @02:24AM (#24798081)
I recently learned that eating raw chicken is possible (Torisashi in Japan).
Re:A disturbing Twinkie that has, so far, defied science by DanBC on Friday October 16, 2020 @06:36AM (#24799432)
Torisashi causes a lot of food poisoning.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2019/11/study-reviews-campylo...

> Rise in eating raw chicken meat and liver

> Between 1997 and 2018, the number of incidents and patients varied from 257 to 645, and from 1,551 to 3,439, respectively. One large outbreak involved 875 patients and was traced to sushi topped with raw or undercooked chicken at outdoor events in Metropolitan Tokyo and Fukuoka Prefecture in 2016.

> Epidemiological investigations of Campylobacter infections have shown that chicken meat products are the most important source of infection. Consumption of raw chicken meat and liver is not common but has been increasing.