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Re:Google disabled my husband's account by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 15, 2020 @02:35PM (#24792107)
> The only reason these tech companies managed to get so big is because they'll cheat at anything that requires human scale. Support, moderation, taking responsibility for the content they host. They somehow managed to skirt on that just as the web was transitioning from a wild west to a somewhat ingrained, regulated place and the world is worse off for it.

People willingly chose the free option and chose to not pay companies that would have offered support.

Re:Google disabled my husband's account by bleepblorp on Thursday October 15, 2020 @02:48PM (#24792276)
The argument that customers chose to be ripped off by opting for 'free' is not supported by evidence that paid services are any more accountable.

Anyone who's had to deal with Google support for paid business accounts will tell you that the situation is barely any different for paying customers. Things might be different for very large businesses who are spending millions per month, but that's hardly relevant to how Google might handle email customers hypothetically paying $9.95 a month for a personal mailbox.

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I do not understand why anyone defends consumer abuse by businesses. Unless they work for said businesses, or own their stock, there is absolutely nothing to gain by siding with an abusive business over an abused customer. The business isn't going to reward their supporters' loyalty by treating them better.

Collaborating with hostile entities is not a redeeming quality.

Re:Google disabled my husband's account by LanceH on Thursday October 15, 2020 @03:17PM (#24792637)
Lots of people with free gmail accounts have their app store purchases locked up behind that very email, don't they? Or their phones.
Re:Google disabled my husband's account by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 15, 2020 @03:14PM (#24792606)
> Anyone who's had to deal with Google support for paid business accounts will tell you that the situation is barely any different for paying customers. Things might be different for very large businesses who are spending millions per month, but that's hardly relevant to how Google might handle email customers hypothetically paying $9.95 a month for a personal mailbox.

Then don’t pay google $10 a month. I don’t. I do the work of supporting businesses that I think deserve it. I know some businesses have monopolies that customers can’t fix by voting with their wallet, but email isn’t one of them.

> Collaborating with hostile entities is not a redeeming quality.

Using their free services and not voting for the right candidate in the market by paying for the service is collaborating with hostile entities (in the example of email where there is no monopoly and almost zero cost to switching).

Re:Google disabled my husband's account by 317070 on Thursday October 15, 2020 @02:39PM (#24792164)
Because support sucks universally and everywhere. There is no way to know if you will get support, even if you pay. Support is one giant lemon market.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons

Re:Google disabled my husband's account by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 15, 2020 @02:42PM (#24792219)
I get support from apple when I walk into their store, or I open up a chat window on their website. I received it in April when my phone died and they helped me try to revive it.

I get support from Fastmail, and Migadu and Target and banks and plenty of other companies. I also provide support for my businesses.

Support usually sucks with monopolies, such as ISPs who know you have no alternative. But even then, I’ve always been able to get someone on the line to fix my issue.