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Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by coldtea on Thursday October 15, 2020 @10:01AM (#24788734)
>Do you remember printing in 2000? Literally every printer was suffering from constant paper jams and other mechanical malfunctions. In 2020 a top consumer or business printer will not jam on you. The business printers in 2000 had slow processors and more ram. It was significantly bad that printing PDFs spent more time processing the file than putting toner on page.

All of that, including the interfacing are not related to patents.

It's not like there's some patent issue for using USB or wifi in your printer over whatever interface used in 2000 compared.

Or like there's a patent on using faster processor or more RAM in your printer (two things you've mentioned also).

Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by jancsika on Thursday October 15, 2020 @10:21AM (#24788925)
Are you stating your last two sentences as the result of researching these issues?

Because as a layperson, I would not have thought a company could get a patent on clicking a button to purchase an item online.

Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by coldtea on Friday October 16, 2020 @12:37AM (#24797515)
>Are you stating your last two sentences as the result of researching these issues?

Do you really believe "researching" is needed?

Like, in every other domain and product category, a company can slap a faster processor and more RAM to the next iteration - as they do -, but this is somehow prevented in printers by patents?

I'd say the extraordinary claim that needs extraordinary evidence is not mine...

Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by ryanmarsh on Thursday October 15, 2020 @10:44AM (#24789127)
When you read HN comments it helps to preface them with “I feel like...”
Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by jancsika on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:02PM (#24793140)
I upvoted you out of greyness because I feel like that is generally correct here. :)

Now that I've helped you out of the quicksand, let's do battle:

"[I feel like] it's not like there's some patent issue for using USB or wifi in your printer over whatever interface used in 2000 compared."

I could certainly try harder to finesse it, but I don't see any sensible place to insert a "YMMV" into any part of that sentence.

Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by moonbug on Thursday October 15, 2020 @10:55AM (#24789248)
Emphasis on "feeling", because there's seldom any thinking going on.
Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by COGlory on Thursday October 15, 2020 @11:26AM (#24789581)
Or at least, you feel like there isn't
Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by ska on Thursday October 15, 2020 @12:14PM (#24790226)
>> as suffering from constant paper jams and other mechanical malfunctions.

> All of that, including the interfacing are not related to patents.

This seems like a pretty strong statement, can you elaborate as to why solving paper jams wouldn't involve patented IP ?

Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by coldtea on Friday October 16, 2020 @12:38AM (#24797519)
The paper jam might be. The rest (speed of processor, amount of ram, interface used) certainly aren't.
Re:Ask HN: Why are there no open source 2d printers? by alanbernstein on Thursday October 15, 2020 @07:58PM (#24795840)
I feel like you may not be familiar with how patents work in the US: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040137855A1/en. This is a patent for "Wireless Mobile Printing", which is more specific than just "Wireless Printing". Both of these concepts are, arguably, obvious combinations of existing technology.