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Re:The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini by jb775 on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @03:49PM (#24780752)
I've always wondered which part of the medical supply chain is causing healthcare prices to rise so rapidly. There's no way these are natural market rates being driven by supply/demand, it's gotta be something artificial. My guess is something along the lines of medical device companies colluding to prop up prices to hospitals.
Re:The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini by jandrese on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @03:56PM (#24780815)
It's not collusion, it's a natural consequence of the way healthcare billing is structured in the US. You don't get to comparison shop but also have a captive audience (you're not just going to decide to be blind right?) so there's no pressure to keep prices reasonable.

This makes a lot of money for powerfully connected companies, so don't expect it to change anytime soon. This is why our congress and mass media treat Medicare For All as a joke or something to attack politicians on even though it's popular with a majority of Americans.

Re:The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini by derivagral on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:28PM (#24781200)
You might take a look at some things from e.g. this result[1] around what parts of USA healthcare are negotiatiable and which are fixed. The "$1500 for a gauze bandage" meme makes a little more sense if you view it from the perspective of "we can't charge market price for expensive things like an MRI since Medi___ pays a flat $1.5k/ea, so lets gouge everywhere we can to make up for it". In addition, the business setup of hospitals/providers and lack of a single customer-facing entity/provider that charges you for services makes these even more Kafkaesque.

On top of this, my friends who work at (private, non-general) hospitals work a lot and are not paid what someone on HN might expect for what they put in. This isn't even necessarily ownership vs labor, since afaik the hospitals themselves are not usually in the best of places financially.

To me, the short version is: can't easily negotiate, information asymmetry, and captured regulators. Imo, this isn't helped that in USA we say "healthcare insurance" but what we mean/want seems to actually be "healthcare subsidy/guarantee".

[1] https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/whats-the-latest-on...

Re:The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini by Analemma_ on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:42PM (#24781355)
There is no one part, the excessive costs can only be analyzed as a symptom of the system as a whole. One fellow online dubbed this "Coasian hell" and has a good writeup explaining where it comes from: http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2018/01/31/in-the-eternal-i...
Re:The real prices of the iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 mini by briandear on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:03PM (#24780887)
No, it’s Medicare cross-subsidization as well as the EMTALA.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5769684/