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Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by slothtrop on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @02:37PM (#24780003)
This, on top of songs disappearing from my playlists, rendered unavailable.

I organize everything in foobar now, both local music and streaming playlists with the help of extensions. You can add Youtube sources to your playlists. Even if the links break, you can automatically fix them, keep the name and structure. Have not tried the app versions.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by nixpulvis on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:03PM (#24782196)
Just give me the fucking mp3 or flac files, subscriptions should be advertised as radio, not a music "library". I've been bitching about the industry burning down my shelves for years now... it's unfathomable how much people rely on these stupid streaming services.

That said, I'd still gladly pay for the music discovery, I just have started to feel cheated out of my money over the years doing so. Should I really be paying $10/month to listen to the same songs I listen to every other month. I don't go on a music collection binge all that often you know.

And then poof, it's gone.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by fivre on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:42PM (#24782568)
Good news! Bandcamp is exactly that (giving you your choice of FLAC or MP3 or whatever, without DRM, and available for download again so long as Bandcamp continues to exist) and is good for artists, since it's an actual album sale, so none of the nonsense associated with streaming payouts.

It's good for discovery also, since while Bandcamp Daily is a marketing tool, it's still written by music nerds who do a good job curating music from local scenes and odd genres. Indie labels also often run storefronts on Bandcamp, and are a decent way of finding the same, as most release music from their local area or with a similar sound. It's different from algorithmic discovery, and requires a bit more effort, but IMO it's worth it to explore on your own, and a fun way to learn something more about an album or track than streaming services' "Chill Hip Hop Beats To Study/Relax To"-style personality-void mood-based curation.

Bandcamp isn't perfect, to be sure. It's not as good for older music (though there are niche labels like https://habibifunkrecords.bandcamp.com/ that dig up old recordings and re-release them digitally) or big-name artists on major labels, but there's so much music available nowadays that you usually won't be at a loss for something to listen to, you just won't always be able to find a specific track as easily as on Spotify. Their mobile app also isn't great, and really needs to add a way to download tracks for offline listening, but hey, no music service is perfect, and I'm fine using a mix of both it and Spotify where one offers a better experience than the other.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by hanklazard on Thursday October 15, 2020 @09:18AM (#24788295)
Bandcamp is such a great service. Pretty much all artists and labels that I care about have a presence there and I really like that I can archive FLAC files of everything I buy. Too bad there’s not a similar drm-free service for movies! (Please chime in if you know of one)
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by psychometry on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:29PM (#24782461)
last.fm is still going strong. Send your plays there from pretty much any service/app and you'll start getting recommendations.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by thefunnyman on Thursday October 15, 2020 @01:14AM (#24785158)
Huge fan of last.fm. I haven’t been using their discovery features (though I may start now that you’ve mentioned it), but I absolutely love all the listening statistics they offer. I find it super interesting to see how my listening habits and music taste evolve over time , as well as seeing which tracks I come back to most.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by bigbubba on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:13PM (#24782302)
On the plus side, pirating music has never been easier. Just rip the audio tracks from youtube with youtube-dl. Coverage is pretty good and so is the audio quality (I am not an audiophile.) No need to sleaze a private tracker invite off IRC or anything like that.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by musicale on Friday October 16, 2020 @09:11PM (#24806664)
Streaming a song multiple times seems wasteful compared to just downloading it once.

Not to mention that on youtube (etc.) you can get stuck with obnoxious advertisements before and after the song.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by jeegsy on Friday October 16, 2020 @11:44AM (#24801915)
Amen. For all the convenience of streaming, it really seems like we have gone steps backwards.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by Darkphibre on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @05:08PM (#24781623)
Say, one thing that I really appreciate from Spotify is the weekly playlist. I love discovering music, and it usually has a few songs I end up liking. Does foobar have a module that does recommendations? Or is there a community aggregation-of-playlists out there I could roll my own?

I still remember being impressed by the preference-clustering paper in '95 (https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.10...) by an MIT grad for what became Firefly (later purchased by Microsoft solely for their sign-in tech called Passport https://web.archive.org/web/19970116111618/http://www.firefl... , still a bit annoyed they shut it down and let music recommendation languish for another decade).

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by philsnow on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @05:33PM (#24781886)
Do you need to have a subscription to get the weekly playlists?

I wonder if you could you "scrobble" your local non-spotify song plays into a free spotify account and then scrape the generated playlists. You'd need a way to use whatever song metadata you have locally to find spotify's copy (if any), a way to drive plays (if you have to use the official client, have it dump to a null audio sink), and a way to scrape playlists.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by slothtrop on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:13PM (#24782297)
Nothing like that I'm afraid. Though I've added m3u links to radio stations and use that for some discovery, alongside bandcamp, reddit, youtube. Personally I find independent radio is underrated, they often save their streams in archives online. Wefunkradio is a good example.

EDIT: incidentally there was a recent Spotify integration component: https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_spotify , not sure if that still works. It also looks like there was an older one for creating playlists using last.fm.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by abdullahkhalids on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:35PM (#24781286)
I still hear the echoes of the songs I listened to on Grooveshark that disappeared overnight.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by TooCleverByHalf on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @05:02PM (#24781558)
Oi, same. Cliché or not, Obi-wan said it best:

> ...as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

I've since created a playlist dedicated to those lost songs, long forgotten fossils, as I randomly re-find or re-remember them. Sadly, there's fewer than 20 songs in there even after all this time.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by pelario on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @03:46PM (#24780711)
Oh man, how do I wish a foobar that runs natively on Linux :(
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by raffraffraff on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:26PM (#24781182)
It pains me to say it, but music apps on Linux are abysmal. The last one that wasn't completely crap was Amazon 1.4.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by jraph on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:37PM (#24781305)
Clementine [1] is pretty cool. It does everything I need:

- cross-fading between songs

- a real queue that is separate from the playlist so you can program what plays next and in which order easily (CTRL+D to add / remove, and a advanced window can show the queue)

- a remote control with an Android app

- stop after this song

- a giant search / filter bar. It does not has to have the focus to start searching, just type when Clementine is the active window

- MPRIS integration (obviously)

- several playlists open at the same time

- the mood bar

It also has:

- tag editing

- integration with many online services

- a library handling that does not get in the way but full-featured anyway

- support for removable media

It's awesome. It could use some pretty some improvement for its look, but it is pretty decent and does the job.

It's a fork and a continuation of Amarok 1.4.

[1] https://clementine-player.org/

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by aojdwhsd on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:10PM (#24782266)
I really like Strawberry [1], a fork of Clementine. "It is a fork of Clementine released in 2018 aimed at music collectors and audiophiles."

[1] https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by notyourwork on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:42PM (#24781360)
+1 When I ran linux everywhere, Clementine was my goto player. This was over 5 years ago, I'm sure its only gotten better.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by psychometry on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:32PM (#24782480)
According to their website, the most recent release is from 2016.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by jraph on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:39PM (#24782547)
Distributions actually ship more recent versions from the git repository. I'm currently running a release tagged as version 1.4 rc2 (openSUSE Tumbleweed).

The project is still alive, it somehow has an issue releasing a version but the player is stable.

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by bigbubba on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:21PM (#24782373)
I use mpv. It's primarily meant as a video player but it works well for music too and even as an image viewer (alternative to 'feh') There is a pretty active community of people writing scripts for mpv (Lua or JS) and it's generally really nice for users with a hacker ethos. I consider it the Emacs of multimedia.

(I wouldn't recommend it for casual users, I tell family members to use VLC.)

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by fivre on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:46PM (#24782606)
deadbeef (https://github.com/DeaDBeeF-Player/deadbeef) tries to be a foobar2k clone of sorts, and while it's nowhere close (foobar2k is just really damn good), it's alright for what it is: a basic GUI playlist manager that plays on-disk music.

The bare-bones experience is kind of nice, to be honest, as my listening habits don't really need much functionality beyond "load a folder of music, respond to media key inputs, and scrobble to last.fm".

Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by gdrift on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @05:17PM (#24781715)
MPD on linux + Android MPD client as the the GUI works well for me.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by lmedinas on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:43PM (#24781369)
Audacious is still top notch imo.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by HeadsUpHigh on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:40PM (#24781342)
There are a million music apps for linux. What exactly are you looking for?
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by tobyhinloopen on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:51PM (#24781449)
That’s the problem: a million apps, but none of them are decent
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by psychometry on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:30PM (#24782467)
Yeah, none of them even have the feature set of iTunes from 10 years ago.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by jeegsy on Friday October 16, 2020 @11:46AM (#24801946)
*Amarok
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by b215826 on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:46PM (#24782602)
Have you tried DeaDBeeF? It's a very minimalistic player with a ton of features (ReplayGain support, gapless playback, etc.).
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by arsome on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @08:21PM (#24783357)
I was actually really unimpressed with FooBar being a linux user coming from Amarok 1.4 and then Clementine, is there something that's supposed to be good about it? Seemed really ugly and required plugins to get basic features.
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by slothtrop on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:26PM (#24782433)
Yes. Failing that, it's possible with wine - https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=54933.0
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by MildlySerious on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:39PM (#24782545)
If it helps, in the settings you can enable an option to display songs even when they are unavailable. It's not perfect but I find it much easier to compromise on that as opposed to Youtube's practice of slowly rotting away playlists until all that's left is a mix of [Deleted Video] and [Private Video]
Re:FreeYourMusic lets users migrate their playlists off Spotify by Crabtr on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @07:59PM (#24783191)
> on top of songs disappearing from my playlists

It might have been the case that the song didn't disappear, but is instead hidden because it's unavailable.

At the bottom of the preferences window there's a section called "display options." In there enable "show unavailable songs in playlists."