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Re:Propaganda, censorship, and surveillance are all attribut... by kazagistar on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @09:36AM (#24776344)
Rome is empire and empire is violence. Let it fall and make room for a better future.
Re:Propaganda, censorship, and surveillance are all attribut... by zepto on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @10:15AM (#24776749)
Past history shows that when an empire falls, there is more violence, followed by the rise of a new empire itself, as you say, based on the triumphs of its violence.

Anyone who calls calls for the fall of empire, without explaining how we avoid the normal consequnces, is calling for more violence.

Re:Propaganda, censorship, and surveillance are all attribut... by kazagistar on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @10:46AM (#24777087)
If reformation proves impossible then revolution is inevitable. What any individual wants is largely irrelevant.
Re:Propaganda, censorship, and surveillance are all attribut... by zepto on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:22AM (#24777540)
True, but not relevant to my point.

Empire is violence, and so is revolution.

If you don’t have an alternative, and you support either one, then you are advocating for violence.

You seem to be advocating for more violence.