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Re:HomePod Mini by dweekly on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @08:01PM (#24771764)
re: on-device computation, you'll note from the presentation that they said that no data is sent to Apple _until you say "Hey Siri"_. They're still doing transcription in the cloud which requires sending your voice for Apple to process and store.

I have no issues personally with using cloud services like this but they very much used weasley language in the presentation and website to obscure the fact that Apple's cloud absolutely will get access to your unencrypted raw utterances following their wakeword detection, and cause people to conclude that that wasn't happening.

As a side-note I find it a bit surprising that with all the history Apple has with Siri and the meaningfully powerful on-device ML acceleration that they still can't download and run a recognition model on-device that wouldn't require streaming your speech to Apple's servers...

Re:HomePod Mini by austinkhale on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @08:59PM (#24772108)
They don’t tie your request to your Apple ID and you can opt out of any recording being stored. Presumably this would make it impossible for a government body to subpoena your recordings, which as we’ve seen with Alexa is entirely possible.
Re:HomePod Mini by liuyong on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @02:00AM (#24773568)
I think the big brother would always find a way to do that, ip? mac?...
Re:HomePod Mini by 2fast4you on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @02:03AM (#24773591)
Siri has always relied on external servers so it doesn’t bother much. I agree with your last point, I hope they move towards full on-device Siri
Re:HomePod Mini by tinus_hn on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:19AM (#24775037)
They can and have for many years, it’s just much less powerful than Siri.

On device you can only ask it to play songs on the device, calling people in the phone book etc.

Re:HomePod Mini by dzhiurgis on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @09:16PM (#24772204)
Pretty sure they do transcribe locally and only send text to cloud to interpret it. So still not private, but no audio is sent (unless for special cases).
Re:HomePod Mini by lxgr on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @06:13AM (#24775000)
No – Apple does transmit the audio samples and interprets server-side: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210657
Re:HomePod Mini by fomine3 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @10:37PM (#24772578)
I'm not pretty sure. Now Siri sends voice to cloud after triggered by wake up word.