Re:Norway officially accuses Russia for cyberattacks on parl...
by tehjoker on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:44PM
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It's not that I think critical thinking is an insanely effective approach, I just don't think there are non-political solutions (i.e. requiring organizing people for a more hopeful future). Getting people to join political groups and getting them to feel less alone on a non-conspiracy basis would do wonders. I just don't think technocratic solutions will work because either they restrict political speech, abuse people into staying politically conformist when that is clearly failing, or are ineffective and harm people.
For example, you might demand FB and Youtube stop using their divisive engagement strategies, but that would violate their profit motive so they won't. The only solutions are political organizing.
Re:Norway officially accuses Russia for cyberattacks on parl...
by cam_l on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @11:28PM
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>The problem is that stupid and mean people are indifferent or outright hostile to such a long-term goal and are perfectly willing and capable of wrecking things in the short term for their own selfish ends.
Watching Attenborough's new netflix film [0] last night, I think I said [1] almost exactly the same thing.
[0] https://www.netflix.com/title/80216393
[1] OK, yelled at the tv in a blind rage.
I don't have a real problem distinguishing real from fake news, research and verification come naturally to me. But although I hear this recommendation frequently, it offers nothing to help with the tidal wave of gullible/dishonest people who spread false information. I would like to ignore them, but a) that requires additional effort, much like filtering spam and b) ignoring them is unwise to some degree, as such people can have a significant impact in the real world by spreading misinformation.
When I first expressed worries about the 'qanon' thing several years ago, friends and family asked me why I wasted time studying such nonsense. Now it's an international phenomenon with electoral leverage; and it's still hard to get people to give their time to study and understand it as a strategic problem rather than simply mocking or belittling the adherents. It's a bit like trying to explain to a clever developer that a brilliant architectural design can be compromised by idiots and that the user interface requires artificial friction or safety rails.
It's not that your preference for an educated polity full of critical thinkers is wrong, it would be delightful. The problem is that stupid and mean people are indifferent or outright hostile to such a long-term goal and are perfectly willing and capable of wrecking things in the short term for their own selfish ends.