Re:Why the Arabic world turned away from science (2011)
by mrwnmonm on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:14PM
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And what did Obama say (then do) about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2013_Rabaa_massacre
I know that there are a lot of people in the west who are honest about their values. But we don't see that at all from the governments. So don't blame us thinking that the US never cared about their values.
Re:Why the Arabic world turned away from science (2011)
by mrwnmonm on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:11PM
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I didn't talk about the failure of the Morsi government, that is highly controversial.
I am saying that they supported the coup before it even happens. They communicated with the military before the coup, giving them the green light to do it.
As I said, I didn't save the sources, but I know what I have read. But I can't ask you to believe me in that case.
Chomsky does accuse the US government of not wanting a democratic government in Egypt, but doesn't actually blame them for the failure of the Morsi government. Instead he blames his friends in the left Liberal movement of Egypt for supporting the Military coup.
As for Obama fudging the question of whether it was a coup, that's exactly the useless after the fact hand-wringing I'm talking about. At that point the coup was a done deal.
It may even be true that western leaders prefer to deal with Middle Eastern autocrats, but (a) when given the opportunity that's not what they set up in Iraq. And (b) they don't actually get to decide who rules any Arab countries anyway. Even in Iraq which they conquered, because they handed that decision over to the electorate.