Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by gallexme on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:32AM
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I'm sure ur already sending 10k+ packets from just casually browsing their website, albeit they would be a lot bigger than massscans(which is a couple of bytes), vs http (a couple of million bytes(assuming the website isn't plain teyt)
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by foota on Friday October 09, 2020 @09:11AM
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That's a completely trivial level of traffic at scale. I can almost guarantee this wouldn't even flag an alert, much less be investigated by legal.
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by wil421 on Friday October 09, 2020 @10:01AM
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If you read these comments organizations are threatening legal action and reports to law enforcement.
https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/masscan/blob/master/dat...
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by foota on Friday October 09, 2020 @10:16AM
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They're also not apple :) These companies are probably just getting alerts from their intrusion detection system telling them someone's port scanning them.
I'll amend my earlier comment a bit. Apple as a corporation doesn't care, neither I imagine would Apple's corporate IT security as an entity, but individual people in Apple might decide port scanning is the bain of their existence and send something, but that's a fluke.
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by bdcravens on Friday October 09, 2020 @02:29PM
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Seems like a very tiny list, given the nature of the tool (none of which I had really heard of)
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by rndgermandude on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:16AM
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The difference this this tool is a hammer and like any tool the operator is responsible to use it safely and appropriately, while the botters are people advertising that they got a hammer, and are willing and eager to bludgeon people to death with it for some money.
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by wil421 on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:54AM
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Your comment makes the most sense.
Where would the line between abuse and curiosity be? If you were the target of an overzealous company how can you make the distinction?
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by rblatz on Friday October 09, 2020 @09:47AM
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Apple wouldn’t even notice. For example recently there was an article here about 5 hackers that spent 3 months attacking Apple (white hat) and Apple seemed unaware until the bug reports were sent in.
Re:Some idiot is using your tool to mass scan our network
by gallexme on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:39AM
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Ddos tools usually use amplification, instead of sending 1:1 bytes
(that is u sending 1 byte and receive 1 byte as answer)
They may query a database instead which a 30 byte search query results in couple thousand bytes of results + the load on the database
It would be expensive to just use raw network power to overwhelm a web service(u would need more bandwidth than the host)
Meanwhile with amplification u only need a 10th or less
Here an example https://www.imperva.com/learn/ddos/dns-amplification/
What is the difference between this tool and the drive by DDoS "testing" tools you can pay to use online. They seem identical to this tool except Masscan stops after the first try.