Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by thomasfl on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:32AM
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Totally agree. The European Union got the peace prize in 2012. Europa used to be most warn torn part of the world, and the origin of two world wars. Members states of the EU are expelled if they have armed conflicts with their neighbouring countries.
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Not exactly - there's no mechanism to expel a member state from the EU.
Member states may have "certain [...] rights deriving from the application of the Treaties to the Member State in question, including the voting rights of the representative of the government of that Member State in the Council" suspended, but "The obligations of the Member State in question under the Treaties shall in any case continue to be binding on that State." (Article 7 TEU)
The only way for a member state to cease being a member state is through the withdrawal process in Article 50 TEU (i.e. like Brexit).
The United States are still waiting for their peace prize on the same grounds. And the peace has lasted longer.
Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by tsimionescu on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:20AM
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Was America a war torn region before the states united? As far as I know, not by a long shot.
Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by amanaplanacanal on Friday October 09, 2020 @11:25AM
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Quite a bit of genocide occurred in the territories, but most of that calmed down before they reached statehood.
Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by tsimionescu on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:22AM
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The genocide and marginalization against the native population continued well after the union, as far as I know.
Did the creation of the EU stop some war in Western Europe?
Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by tsimionescu on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:29PM
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That is commonly believed, yes - it has brought together countries that had been in a bitter war less than 50 years earlier, and may well have preserved the peace.
Pure speculation. Just like the states haven't had a war because they're the United States. Imagine if the states would have become independent countries. I can imagine the endless warfare. Nobel in Peace as clearly deserved as the European States.
Re:The Nobel Peace Prize 2020
by tsimionescu on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:25AM
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Sure, it's all speculation, not claiming otherwise. But this can be said about any historical event that was "prevented" - by definition, it didn't happen, so we can only assume that it could have happened if something didn't stop it.