Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by JohnL4 on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:49PM
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Lenovo is chinese, right? How many other (big) chinese companies have been through Dell's cycle as you describe it?
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Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by marmaduke on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:53PM
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Where is Dell making its computers? When I track shipments they seem to be coming from China.
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by rbanffy on Thursday October 08, 2020 @03:27PM
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I don't think they make their own hardware. They design it and then farm out manufacture.
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by criddell on Thursday October 08, 2020 @05:52PM
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Clayton Christensen has written and talked about how Dell sold their business piece-by-piece. Each individual step seemed like a good move - it lowered costs and increased profits. Until one day the companies they outsourced to had it all and they started selling better computers for less money than Dell.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/18/clayton...
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by rbanffy on Thursday October 08, 2020 @07:28PM
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It's interesting that the difference between that and Apple is that since Apple controls the OS, nobody else can make a Mac.
Unfortunately for Dell, anyone can make a PC.
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by symlinkk on Thursday October 08, 2020 @05:11PM
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What do they even design? All of the components inside their computers are off the shelf products from other companies.
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by vel0city on Thursday October 08, 2020 @05:44PM
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Speaking of their servers, their motherboards and chassis seem to be of their own design. Often times these layouts are pretty proprietary and designed exactly around the design of the chassis. They do some level of customization of firmware on the devices they go with, as there's usually Dell firmware on things like hard drives which integrates more with their own management tools. Arguably their software stack of actually managing fleets of their hardware is something they design, along with the actual remote access controller systems they put on the boards.
Re:IBM is splitting itself into two public companies
by humaniania on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:58PM
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Dell desktop workstations have custom cases and mobos and power supplies, at the very least. Laptops are custom cases and often SoC.