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Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday October 08, 2020 @07:46AM (#24718186)
> but you are just generalizing

No he's not. Every unionized workplace I have been in from educational institutions to government departments to defense contractors is like this to a pretty large extent.

>But the German example

Yes, I know that European unions are different and not nearly as asinine as American ones but I have yet to hear anyone say that tech will get European style unions let alone a good argument for why this will happen. The best I've heard so far is we should unionize because Europe's unions don't suck. I've never worked (in tech) in an environment where I feel I am getting screwed hard enough that the unions are the lesser of the evils. I understand game devs may feel differently (and they will likely unionize before the rest of the industry IMO).

Basically American unions suck which is why American workers in well compensated industries don't want them.

Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by MrDresden on Thursday October 08, 2020 @06:22PM (#24724566)
"Basically American unions suck which is why American workers in well compensated industries don't want them."

A EU unionized tech worker here who has union negotiated minimum salery and benefits and am fully able to negotiate for more (which I do each year). And I am not far from the 6 figure mark (in $).

So there is nothing saying that unions will mess with your bottom line.

Just don't create unions that suck.

Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by Apocryphon on Thursday October 08, 2020 @12:43PM (#24720905)
> but I have yet to hear anyone say that tech will get European style unions let alone a good argument for why this will happen

Well, it's good that discussions like this are happening because it spreads awareness that there are better models for unions from abroad, and perhaps that will get more people agitating for an union that's different from the traditional American kind.

Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by bsenftner on Thursday October 08, 2020 @08:53AM (#24718657)
American style capitalism has polluted the mental models of anyone raised in the States to disregard European management styles and by extension the successful European work life balance, to the US citizens' significant determent. The work-life balance in Europe is more of a life worth living, while the life styles in the United States require double incomes to participate, are so heavily marketed it rendered everything expensive in either dollars, social credit, political credit or when not "playing the game" complete social isolation. Life in the United States is close to ruined, we have close to no community beyond these online peeps into the darkness.
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by dudul on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:47PM (#24725903)
Double income is pretty much a requirement everywhere in Europe.

Some things are more expensive in the US, like cars. Some are more expensive in Europe, like food and gas.

There are great communities in the US. Dont generalize a country of 360M people on your personal situation.

Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by smithcoin on Thursday October 08, 2020 @10:11AM (#24719224)
I’m sorry you feel that way.
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un... by vangelis on Thursday October 08, 2020 @12:41PM (#24720877)
Not an argument.