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Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday October 08, 2020 @04:28AM (#24717108)
How much of that BMW will still be working after five years?
Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by Unklejoe on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:33AM (#24718944)
Personal anecdote: I'm still driving the 2011 BMW 335i that I bought in 2014. It now has 265,000+ miles.

The key with owning a BMW is to do all of the maintenance yourself. That brings the cost of ownership back down to planet Earth.

I've replaced the water pump twice, high pressure fuel pump once, and the radiator. Plus a few odds and ends.

If I had paid the dealer for this work, I'd be totally in the hole.

One thing I will give BMW is that they know how to design a chassis. The car has all of the original suspension components and the steering is still as tight as the day I got it. No clunking, no rattles, no bouncing, etc.

Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by StrictDabbler on Thursday October 08, 2020 @12:13PM (#24720512)
Did BMW learn a lot from the nine production years where their chassis cracked so badly that the wheel supports reliably tore away from the rear subframe? Or the control arms bearings that would disintegrate every 50k? The rear differential bushings and the GUIBO flex disc that both require regular replacement to prevent the car destroying itself?

Not to mention the little stuff, like the window regulators and sunroof self-destructing, the ignition tumbler corroding and disabling the car's internal bus so the lights freaked out, or the headlight mountings disintegrating.

As the owner of an E46 that I purchased used at 100k and now sits defunct at 155k I'm baffled by your comment. I'd fix everything on that car and four unrelated things would break the next month. "Preventive maintenance" wasn't oil changes and brake pads... it consisted of half-replacing major systems at regular intervals.

Maybe they just got their shit together on the newer models, but yeesh.

Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by CedarMadness on Thursday October 08, 2020 @10:56PM (#24726282)
The E46 is pretty easy to work on, and the subframe thing they fixed for free (after some lengthy lawsuits). I took mine to 200k and never really had any big problems, just the usual stuff (DISA, water pump, oil filter housing leaks, a/c relay, one window regulator). I think the 325 might have had it worse though.
Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by solotronics on Friday October 09, 2020 @10:55AM (#24730470)
Or you could instead own a Toyota/Lexus that needs basically nothing except oil over 200k miles. Mine have been indestructible.
Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by adpcm on Thursday October 08, 2020 @04:41AM (#24717176)
Everything. Why do you think it would not?
Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by keeganpoppen on Thursday October 08, 2020 @05:03AM (#24717281)
from what i understand they are somewhat notorious for being fickle / needing lots of maintenance. which is certainly the experience my father has had with his, haha. still loves it, though.
Re:Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y by llampx on Thursday October 08, 2020 @12:09PM (#24720474)
BMWs have taken a big leap forward in reliability since the E36 and E46.