Re:Pointers from Portugal on Addiction and the Drug War
by greencar on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @10:18PM
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They give you a good buzz, especially if you are a relatively opiate naive person. If you happen to have an addict friend that wants to sell their methadone or suboxen to buy real stuff, then it ends up being a lose lose for people trying to stop overall use
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Re:Pointers from Portugal on Addiction and the Drug War
by opiate_recovery on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @10:26PM
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Bupe + naloxone doesn't give any buzz and it blocks you from getting high from other opiates. i guess maybe if you were opiate naive maybe it would IDK. but that would be really dumb to take if you want to get high take the real shit
Definitely can from methadone especially mixed with a benzo
for sure people sell it but they're going to use with or without it.
studies have shown that those who don't get long time sober and do replacement therapy on and off nonetheless have longer periods of abstinence and lower death time frames (not sure how to phrase that they dont die as much/soon)
Re:Pointers from Portugal on Addiction and the Drug War
by eecc on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:55AM
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Methadone is even more dangerous than the real stuff: just withdraw syndrome can be fatal.
Re:Pointers from Portugal on Addiction and the Drug War
by opiate_recovery on Thursday October 08, 2020 @10:56AM
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yeah it's gross. i'm 100% for just giving actual pure opiates out for free to addicts that don't yet want to get clean.
in a lot of ways it would be safer. clean, known dose, less theft to pay for drugs, less violence no cartels