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Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by fitbitq on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:10PM (#24704639)
Tip for the pro when buying a dishwasher. Make sure the distance between so lower and upper drawer is big enought that the "washing wheels" can still spin if you have your plates inside.

My new Whirlpool dishwasher is nearly useless.

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by Scoundreller on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:24PM (#24704716)
Are all of your plates oversized? Or square so they don’t sit a bit below the level of the bottom rack?

Not that there’s an iso standard for plate size, but I have a hard time imagining this being a common issue.

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by Ma8ee on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @02:56AM (#24705922)
All recent dishwashers I have own have had adjustable upper drawer so you can move it up or down a few centimeters depending on where your load requires extra height.
Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by aidenn0 on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:39PM (#24704817)
Most Bosch washers have adjustable racks. It's great.
Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by wombatmobile on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:49PM (#24704862)
How often do you clean the sump filter in your Bosch?

If you don't do it often, do you get Error 24?

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by bserge on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:27AM (#24707493)
You mean the filter at the bottom? Ideally you want to do it every time. Bosch/Siemens have an interesting way of measuring the amount of water:

Other manufacturers (and older BSH appliances) use a simple pressure switch. Bosch went all German engineering with a fully electronic system.

The intake has a propeller with magnetized blades and a reed switch that counts the rotations, so it knows exactly how much water goes in, which is pretty damn cool.

The turbidity sensor in the drain plays a vital role in this - it assures the mainboard that the dishwasher is, in fact, empty. Otherwise it would overfill.

And because of that, BSH dishwashers are very trigger happy with the drain errors. They could also be caused by pieces of food/glass in the drain pump, btw.

Surprisingly, this over-engineered solution is more reliable on a dishwasher because a traditional pressure switch gets clogged more often and is harder to fix.

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by piceas on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @05:18AM (#24706511)
Not often enough and yes. And then error 9 after the heater shorts out when the top up salt warning stops working :/ Fortunately the pump with integrated heater strip is relatively easy to replace.
Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by bserge on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:16AM (#24707418)
I hated those heaters. The most common failure point. Made a lot of money selling them, though :D

And replacing the pump/heater assembly on a Bosch/Siemens is harder than on Indesit/Beko/Whirlpool. Have to fiddle with a screwdriver and a flashlight from the side.

On that note, the drainage needs cleaning often (or the sensor whines about it), and I liked the water flow sensor (which they use instead of a pressure switch) on Bosch/Siemens.

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by aidenn0 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @03:20AM (#24706023)
I've only had to do it once (3yr old machine), maybe every 2 years or so? Never seen error 24; I can just tell by ear when it's slowing because our air-gap seems to amplify the sound of draining water.
Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by bserge on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:32AM (#24707521)
Most dishwashers have either adjustment handles or two sets of wheels/rollers on the upper tray. You can adjust the height by taking it out completely and switching to the other set of wheels.

Though I have seen ones that can't be adjusted. You could try getting an adjustable upper tray from a similar make/model. Usually they are interchangeable.

Re:A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automat... by prawn on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @07:29AM (#24707176)
Can be hopeless with modern wine glasses also.