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Re:Why I am building permapeople.org by bluntfang on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @09:57AM (#24697680)
>as you suggest

FYI, if I suggested anything at all it was that industrialization under capitalism is bad, and more people living a sustainable lifestyle will show that there's a way to survive without industrial capitalism. It's a baby step that shows people that it's possible. Not the end goal.

Re:Why I am building permapeople.org by eitland on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:11AM (#24697800)
> FYI, if I suggested anything at all it was that industrialization under capitalism is bad,

Here is exactly what you wrote above:

> Every baby step away from industrialization is a step towards sustainability.

It is hard to interpret it in any way except that this is the outcome you wish for.

Re:Why I am building permapeople.org by bluntfang on Friday October 09, 2020 @11:30AM (#24730832)
Then I resign that my communication failed.

A baby step away from industrialization will allow people to connect with the world around them. So many people are disconnected from what non-processed food even looks, smells, or tastes like. Showing people that we don't have to eat the perfectly red, plump and tasteless tomato in exchange for a tasty, delicious, non-perfect tomato that they grew themselves helps show them that the world they've been conditioned to exist in isn't the only one available.