Re:Strapped startup declines acquihire, Apple poaches key en...
by theamk on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:55AM
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Google is a pretty bad example, they are well known for not caring where did you study. As long as you pass their (hellish) interview, they will take you.
And bootcamps are not going to help you with that.
Re:Strapped startup declines acquihire, Apple poaches key en...
by iainmerrick on Monday October 05, 2020 @02:26AM
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they are well known for not caring where did you study
No, this is incorrect -- Google has a list of “favored” academic institutions. It’s not used to filter out candidates, so they’ll still hire people from other backgrounds, but studying at a top university is considered to be a positive signal.
(Possibly this has changed recently, but it was true through at least 2012 or so.)
Re:Strapped startup declines acquihire, Apple poaches key en...
by 908B64B197 on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:06PM
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Often it's simply the signal to noise ratio. It varies tremendously between institutions.
Investment bankers and programmers earn more than your typical American because the supply of bankers and top-level programmers is much tighter. Goldman Sachs and KKR hire from Wharton or HBS, and Google hires grads from CMU or Stanford. Whether they should or shouldn’t restrict their hiring practices is another matter, but their insistence on hiring only the “elite” causes salaries in those fields to skyrocket.
Welders and electricians make more money than say a landscaper because you need more training, certifications, exams, and experience to do the job, greatly reducing the pool of available labor.
If you want programmers to get paid less, make it easier to become a programmer and get Google to hire more broadly.
That’s perhaps why bootcamps and code camps are looked down upon by existing programmers — not just the belief in the superiority of a traditional 4 year computer science education (whether founded or not), but also a realization that if these things catch on they might be paying us all less in the future.