Re:Why American cities can’t keep up with infrastructure mai...
by xyzzyz on Sunday October 04, 2020 @04:02PM
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> This money came from the federal government, and not the local tax payer - ultimately with the federal government taking on long-term debt to fund it.
It did not, this is completely false. Federal government by and large didn't fund local roads and sewers. Federal government did often help with interstate highways and large water works, but those would be built just the same even with the Strong Towns preferred high density development model.
By the way, the money that federal government spends is not created out of thin air. It comes mostly from federal income tax, which is overwhelmingly paid by the people living in exactly the kind of suburbs Strong Towns hates.
Re:Why American cities can’t keep up with infrastructure mai...
by mixmastamyk on Sunday October 04, 2020 @06:20PM
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I don't know how one would miss it, but the national debt is stupefying and increasing. The Federal Reserve has indeed been creating money out of thin air for decades, by the trillions. Sooner or later it adds up to real money.
Re:Why American cities can’t keep up with infrastructure mai...
by xyzzyz on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:56PM
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The infrastructure spending of federal government is trivial compared to its entitlement spending. That’s where the real cost is, not in bridges or interstates.
Re:Why American cities can’t keep up with infrastructure mai...
by lumost on Monday October 05, 2020 @02:06PM
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which further implies that the federal govt could have the money to rebuild the infrastructure. Consider that the entitlement spending is primarily distributed to the individuals living in the too expensive to maintain cities and towns.
While this seems like a ponzi scheme of perpetual growth, there is nothing that would prevent the federal government ( or the local government ) from repeating this exercise to rebuild the infrastructure. If we can't redo this exercise it means that
- Despite economic growth, the cost of replacing existing infrastructure is higher than it was a generation ago e.g. Cost disease: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol%27s_cost_disease
- The balance of payments in the economy is not well calibrated on a generational scale, profitable economic activity is not attributed on a local scale with free cash flows diverted elsewhere by rentiers/global financial flows e.g. a factory in annaheim california sees all profits recognized in Delaware/Ireland. The federal government/central bank may have more capability to provide local governments with finances than we would expect in such a scenario by rebalancing payments.
- The current US city landscape has real long-term economic costs that drain capital on unprofitable activities, immediate pivots in city planning are required to avoid economic fallout.
I suspect a little bit of all three options are at play, but I would be curious for more exploration on items 1&2. A great irony of the modern world is that the City of Flynn borders several pipe manufacturers.