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Re:Time to Pardon Edward Snowden? by tw04 on Sunday October 04, 2020 @12:35PM (#24680263)
I feel like people forget that leading up to the Iraq war, France and Germany were aligned with Russia and very much against US interests. They were a frenemy at best.

I'm not saying it's right - we were in the wrong on Iraq and that was obvious before it started. But just like the US has had a HARD turn towards fascism, there's nothing stopping that from occurring to our allies as well. I'd argue it's dereliction of duty if you aren't spying on your allies, they're spying on us.

What you DO with the information gathered, in my opinion, is what determines whether you're violating your ally's trust.

Re:Time to Pardon Edward Snowden? by jbay808 on Sunday October 04, 2020 @01:26PM (#24680656)
I'm curious about what interpretation of events leads you to the conclusion that, say, France was aligned against US interests? What about Canada?

Edit: And it's one thing (not necessarily a great thing) if you and your allies are knowingly and willingly exchanging intelligence about suspicious activities you pick up in each other's countries to tip off law enforcement. Exfiltrating corporate industrial and technological secrets is a different matter and there's no way an allied government would be OK with that happening, even as an under-the-table arrangement.

Re:Time to Pardon Edward Snowden? by tw04 on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:20PM (#24689130)
I literally just said that France and Germany were against the war. Assuming you were old enough to be an adult leading up the war literally EVERYTHING leads me to that conclusion. Their populations protested, they were very vocal and it was obvious to anyone watching international news broadcasts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_Iraq_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governmental_positions_on_the_...