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Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by caseysoftware on Sunday October 04, 2020 @10:53AM (#24679483)
If women freely choose to pursue other areas of interest - no matter the area's importance or the women's interests - we've reached the point where the only acceptable cause to claim is "sexism".

It's disappointing because it takes away agency and becomes a form of control.

Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by brabel on Sunday October 04, 2020 @11:35AM (#24679768)
Why do you find it disappointing that women choose certain careers while men choose others when they have fully free choice on the matter?

We know that by nature, men and women MUST have different interests on average, otherwise they wouldn't be interested in each other and our species would die :).

Can't we just accept that we make different choices sometimes and try as best as we can to make things progress to the best of our capabilities, regardless of how much each gender contributes to each human endeavour?

Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by caseysoftware on Sunday October 04, 2020 @04:17PM (#24681964)
Read my comment again.
Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by blocko on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:33PM (#24689932)
Why wouldn't men and women be interested in each other if they had similar interests? How do gay couples exist in this framework?
Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by apta on Sunday October 04, 2020 @05:21PM (#24682339)
I think he's agreeing with you.
Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by edmundsauto on Sunday October 04, 2020 @01:05PM (#24680506)
Except we use statistic about the gender makeup of a field to determine if there is sexism. Which is flawed, but often feels rational.
Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by flashyfaffe2 on Sunday October 04, 2020 @01:48PM (#24680826)
I can't find the article describing it but the gender bias tends to be disregarded when you add one additional parameter: place of birth.

In third world countries, women reprensent 50% of the students in engineering classes ( for reasons that are easily understandable).

Actually, the bias observed applyies in countries where freedom of choice is given to everyone.

Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by bArray on Sunday October 04, 2020 @01:32PM (#24680705)
> we've reached the point where the only acceptable cause to

> claim is "sexism".

I disagree. The differences could be societal, cultural or biological. For example, I don't think it's contested that at least some women pick some career choices due to the want to have/raise children. People could argue indefinitely as to exactly how much influence each factor plays, but to call 'sexism' simply because there are gender differences seems incorrect.

Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by luckylion on Sunday October 04, 2020 @02:07PM (#24680974)
I understood the comment you replied to as sexism being the only cause acceptable to society at large. If you suggest different reasons, you'd get in trouble if you worked at Google for example.
Re:Boys lag behind: How teachers’ gender biases affect stude... by bArray on Sunday October 04, 2020 @06:38PM (#24682826)
> sexism being the only cause acceptable to society at large

That's how I understood it.

> If you suggest different reasons, you'd get in trouble if

> you worked at Google for example.

Unfortunately, it seems so. And this is the same most places I've experienced. In academia for example, you couldn't even pose the question in most places - there would be protests, your tenure would be under review, your funding would be cut - to name a few possibilities. If academics are nothing, they are overly cautious.

You have to ask yourself for example why the term "intellectual dark web" was coined [1]. They don't refer to them as 'wrong' or 'conspiracy theorists', they just pose different questions, and for that alone they were ostracized.

I refuse to live in a world where even posing the question is not possible. If Google won't dare hire me, I'll build my own theme park with blackjack and hookers [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Dark_Web

[2] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-going-to-build-my-own-them...