Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by pratik661 on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:16PM
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The Islamic world in the Middle Ages had a system of decentralized money transfer (hawala) where capital could be moved virtually across any region that had a trusted hawala intermediary. European aristocrats in the 1700s (and probably before) from different countries were also able to open lines of credit in other countries. It’s actually referenced in Count of Monte Cristo.
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Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by brobdingnagians on Friday October 02, 2020 @01:02PM
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I always wondered how the count could so easily transfer money around like that. I thought it was a fictional mechanism to make it easy for him, but I guess I was wrong! Reading more about it, and it is a very interesting system.
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by Abishek_Muthian on Friday October 02, 2020 @01:07PM
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Isn't Hawala networks still in use today albeit illegally?
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by f001 on Friday October 02, 2020 @02:52PM
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Yeah, they are. Came up in my yearly compliance training for the bank i work for. It was the first i’ve heard of them.
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by Judgmentality on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:55PM
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But information traveled as slowly as people then, unless we're talking about short distances that pigeons could cover (or I guess something equivalent to the pony express, but that seems unlikely). They still had to send a courier to actually deliver the message to exchange the money, and there may very well have been a requirement of receiving this message (otherwise how would you know that the money hadn't already been moved since there can be a weeks to months long delay between messages)?
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by brobdingnagians on Friday October 02, 2020 @01:05PM
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I think one of the major benefits of it is that you can send one courier with information about the passwords and money amounts, without having to send a wagon or boat load of specie. That one person can travel much faster than a caravan and there is no risk of theft. A caravan takes large amounts of preparation and is a target for robbers.
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by pratik661 on Friday October 02, 2020 @02:10PM
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Human travelers need rest. Horses get tired, etc. A message can be transferred to a fresh courier. In fact the ancient Persian empire had a system where horses were stationed at regular intervals so that a message could travel across the empire without halting.
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by philwelch on Friday October 02, 2020 @03:48PM
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Telegraphy was invented in the late 18th century and electric telegraphy in the 19th.
Re:Global capital is the tail that wags the U.S. economic dog
by dpoochieni on Friday October 02, 2020 @01:34PM
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This is not the point, even though there was banking, the actual settlements and information flow, flowed slower (gold and gold notes.)