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Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by throw0101a on Friday October 02, 2020 @06:49AM (#24661220)
> If not I might as well do this and earn Rs. 100. In fact this attitude is cultivated from childhood in certain business class families. Don't let go of any opportunity of earning a profit, however small it might be.

The Ferengi from Star Trek come to mind when I read this.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi

* https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi

The Rules of Acquisition are always a fun read:

* https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

In this case Rule 3 would probably apply:

> Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

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Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by throw0101a on Friday October 02, 2020 @09:59AM (#24662666)
> You are likening a nation of humans to a fictional alien species?

If you don't like it, talk to Gene Roddenberry. In ST:TOS the Klingons (IIRC) were used as a stand in for the Soviets:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon#Conception

* https://www.history.com/news/star-trek-series-episodes-vietn...

Or you could view it as the anthropomorphization of the vice of greed or stinginess/miserliness/parsimony.

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Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by throw0101a on Friday October 02, 2020 @11:34AM (#24663676)
> "Hey, that story about Polish people reminds me of those scurrilous Romulans!"

Heh. You wanna guess where my ancestors come from? :)

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:11PM (#24664070)
:gasp: Romulus???
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by fireflash38 on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:12AM (#24662772)
Most fiction tends to be based at least in some part on reality, whether the author explicitly intended it or not (allegorically or literally).
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by srpinto on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:22AM (#24662885)
We learn from fiction. Try it. And... It's fine if you find it offensive. We don't care.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by test1235 on Friday October 02, 2020 @07:57AM (#24661687)
I always used to wonder if the races in the star trek universe had any correlation with human ethnicities.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by zentiggr on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:11AM (#24662767)
I wouldn't say ethnicities... The Ferengi serm to be a personified contrasting ideology against the "we don't need money anymore" of the Federation.

Not to say that people won't overlay their own prejudices over what's actually there, but i see just an explicit contrast of ideas about economies.

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by krapp on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:54PM (#24664532)
Less ethnicities than cultures and metaphors. Darmok notwithstanding.

The Klingons were originally intended to look Asiatic and resemble Mongols or Japanese samurai, with the Klingon Empire being essentially the Soviet Union In Space. And there is an uncomfortable elephant in the room that Klingons, a species mostly known for violence and bloodlust, are all (or almost all) black coded. While the implications are obviously unintentional, it's impossible not to draw parallels in the history in sci-fi and fantasy to the "swarthy, dark-skinned savage" archetype.

Speaking of which here[0] is a video on Klingons and the history of racial coding in Star Trek if anyone is interested.

The relationship between Cardassians and Bajorans is clearly a metaphor for post-war Germany, with the former being Nazis and the latter Jews. Romulans, obviously, are Space Romans.

The Borg clearly represent the dehumanizing effect of technology and collectivism, making them a perfect foil for the Federation with its techno-utopian ideals. I've heard but can't prove that the Borg were meant to be a parody of Japanese business culture. There are alien stand ins for racial prejudice from "Let That Be your Last Battlefield" and nonbinary gender persecution from "The Outcast," and the Trill species in general. In cases like these, the aliens are meant to serve as a mirror to some aspect of humanity.

And of course the Ferengi have already been discusssed here.

Although in one egregious case (TNG's "Code of Honor")[1] the "aliens" were literally just African caricatures in space. And of course TOS gives us planets with literal space Nazis, space Romans, space Cowboys, space Greek Gods, space whatever costumes they could scrounge from the Desilu lot that week.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqbSQWKV_T8

[1]https://trekmovie.com/2020/06/14/jonathan-frakes-and-denise-...

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by rightbyte on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:48PM (#24664468)
If you watch the first appearence of the Klingons they are obviously Mongol raiders. Later they are vikings?
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by fennecfoxen on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:30AM (#24662972)
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by VLM on Friday October 02, 2020 @08:45AM (#24662007)
General opinion for decades has been the Ferengi are specifically anti-Semitic stereotypes rather than generic Mediterranean-area stereotypes.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by throw0101a on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:14AM (#24662803)
> In America, people ask 'Do the Ferengi represent Jews?' In England, they ask 'Do the Ferengi represent the Irish?' In Australia, they ask if the Ferengi represent the Chinese[…] The Ferengi represent the outcast… it's the person who lives among us that we don't fully understand.[19]

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#Comparisons_with_anti-...

Or you could view them as the anthropomorphization of the vice of greed or stinginess/miserliness/parsimony.

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by mjlee on Friday October 02, 2020 @09:43AM (#24662501)
As a Jew, I always just considered them space goblins...
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday October 02, 2020 @12:13PM (#24664085)
So did I.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by mmmmmk on Friday October 02, 2020 @11:59AM (#24663948)
I forgot where I read it, but I believe Roddenberry modeled the Ferengi after New England traders in the 1800's.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by kd0amg on Friday October 02, 2020 @07:11PM (#24667968)
This is stated directly in the episode that introduced them.