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Re:Looking at the experience of black Britons through an Ame... by gambiting on Friday October 02, 2020 @06:17AM (#24661007)
Again, the key word here is " it's not a systematic racism like in the US" - I'm not(obviously) trying to say that racism doesn't exist in Poland - it does and it's a problem. Just that the entire country isn't built on racist behaviour like US is/was, it's not systematic as in the country as it exists now(and largely how it existed in the post WW1 shape too) wasn't built with racist institutions and principles. Again, and I cannot stress this enough - that doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist there.
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Re:Looking at the experience of black Britons through an Ame... by tobr on Friday October 02, 2020 @06:29AM (#24661086)
There seems to be confusion about “systemic” vs “systematic” here. Systematic racism would imply a system that is designed to achieve racism. The more common term is systemic racism, which implies racism more or less as a “side effect” of a structure or system that arguably has a different, benign purpose.
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Re:Looking at the experience of black Britons through an Ame... by theshrike79 on Friday October 02, 2020 @06:38AM (#24661136)
I'd argue that the American system was systematically build to be systemic :)

There are laws in the US that, on the surface, seem to be benign, but upon closer inspection are specifically and systematically created to target a certain racial group disproportionately.

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Re:Looking at the experience of black Britons through an Ame... by Vinnl on Friday October 02, 2020 @06:44AM (#24661181)
FYI, "systemic racism" is usually understood to be roughly "discriminatory treatment is embedded in the institutions". For example, if Roma get stopped by police more often, that's systemic racism.

I think you use it to mean "it played a major role in the founding of our country". Saying "there is no systemic racism in Poland" makes sense in that context, but probably not in the other, and that's why people are doubting you.

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