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Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by izacus on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:11AM (#24650976)
> Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own.

It has worked reliably with pretty much every charger I threw at it so this sounds like one of those urban myths.

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by dx87 on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:15AM (#24651036)
It's not an urban myth, Nintendo acknowledged it and told people to not use 3rd party chargers.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/08/heres-why-nintendo-sw...

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by matt_heimer on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:30AM (#24651211)
The article says the issue was with a third-party dock made by Nyko that supplies 9v on the CC pin when it should be 5v. How is that Nintendo's fault?
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by ahmedalsudani on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:16AM (#24651045)
> And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device.

GP is giving you their first-hand experience with this issue. It’s a little disrespectful to call it an urban myth replying to a first-hand account.

FWIW, the Switch charger outputs a higher voltage, IIRC.

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by pen2l on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:21AM (#24651109)
Don’t think it’s necessarily « disrespectful « to doubt another’s account. This reminds me of the « bend gate » problem with iPhones. There were some here who reported the problem... but somehow it was not a problem in the grand scheme of things. We have a lot of skeptical folks here (a good thing!) so we should be respectfully skeptical of the skeptics at times, without an exchange of ill feelings. :)
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by cyphar on Thursday October 01, 2020 @05:37PM (#24656392)
While the whole "bend your phone in half" thing was overblown, it definitely is a major issue. The whole class of touch disease issues (where the screen has grey bars flickering and touch stops working) were caused by the same underlying problem -- the phones are less rigid and small flexing (such as in your pocket) causes the Touch IC chip to become unseated. An incredibly large number of iPhones have succumbed to this issue, and Apple had a "repair program" for it[1] (which is their terminology to get around calling it a "recall" because their product was faulty) -- and as usual their description of the problem is incredibly skewed (you don't need to drop your phone to trigger it and it affected a very large number of devices because it was a design flaw of the phone).

[1]: https://support.apple.com/iphone6plus-multitouch

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by ahmedalsudani on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:45AM (#24651411)
Honestly it’s mostly about the tone. Skepticism is welcome.

What was bend-gate?

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by edoceo on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:52AM (#24651500)
iPhones would get the frame bent

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8288566

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by maccard on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:21AM (#24651113)
Another vote for the switch being evil here - just because it works for you doesn't mean it's an urban myth. The OnePlus adapters have historically had issues with the switch - https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/5xexiz/fyi_the_one... and the iPhone usb adapters have also had issues.

The fact that there's a wiki on "what usb c charger to buy" for your switch suggest many others are having issues too - https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/6jnkl4/list...

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by fullstop on Thursday October 01, 2020 @11:06AM (#24651728)
With OnePlus adapters, I would only ever use it for Dash / Warp charging of their phones. It's unique enough that I wouldn't even consider attempting to charge a laptop or a switch with it.
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by maccard on Thursday October 01, 2020 @03:59PM (#24655553)
Given the topic of the post, it's worth pointing that out. Even though both are usb c devices (switch and oneplus), they do a really good job of proving the article correct.
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by 4sak3n on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:17AM (#24651058)
I think you'll find that if you do even a small amount of research you will find that this is not the case. There are many sources which confirm this, many of them official. Your comment amounts to: "Well since it hasn't happened to me then it can't possibly be true." Really?
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by klohto on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:14AM (#24651025)
How about you read the Nintendo docs & warranty before throwing one of your myths around. It’s a well known thing combined with their controller.
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by majewsky on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:13AM (#24651012)
I have a 2018 Switch and it works well with all chargers I've tested so far (mostly Apple and Lenovo besides the one that came with the Swift). My guess is that the problems that existed in the original hardware were fixed in a subsequent hardware revision.
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by vr46 on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:30AM (#24651220)
Maybe the problems were fixed, but not by the time mine was ordered from Amazon on 8 December 2018. It charged fine with an Anker and Apple charger for, well, until it went pop this July. I'm glad yours is working fine, and it does come with a two-year warranty, but this was considered damage. From Nintendo's repair service:

> Our engineers have inspected your Switch Console and found damage due to USB-C Connector Damage. Under our warranty policy we do not cover the cost of the repair for damaged items. A payment of £53.50 is required for us to complete the repair.

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by tdsamardzhiev on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:17AM (#24651064)
So does mine, 3 years and counting.
Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by lstamour on Thursday October 01, 2020 @10:23AM (#24651139)
Actually it isn’t but I’m not finding the article I’d previously read on the topic.

Personally I think it comes down to both the charging profiles the switch will accept are limited, such that some chargers don’t work with the switch - each USB PD charger supports a different set of charging specs (volts/amps/watts). https://www.reddit.com/r/UsbCHardware/comments/ch99aj/apple_...

I’d also suggest that some PD bricks/chargers might not be as reliable at sending power, if so, or if a cable’s wiring sends it down the wrong path, it could be disastrous for many devices that don’t take this into account. I am reminded of reviews of USB-C cables from a few years ago from Benson Leung.

Re:USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’... by arthur2e5 on Thursday October 01, 2020 @12:01PM (#24652461)
Like someone said upthread, the issue isn't with how it does not accept all profiles, but with how it says it accepts 20V while expecting 15V.