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Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by gumby on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:34PM (#24621956)
I really like TM as well, and find it quite useful. It’s like incremental backup on steroids. But I don’t feel it replaces a “snapshot” backup system.
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by Scapeghost on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:28PM (#24622393)
Yes I don't think you can/should rely on TM only. It's convenient to keep running in the background but you'll still want to do manual backups to multiple places (external disks, Dropbox, Github etc)
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by lostlogin on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:47PM (#24622538)
Manual backups fall by the wayside in every environment I’ve seen them used. You are a better person than me and those are me. I’m a big fan of backblaze for this reason.

As an aside, I’m surround by people who consider cloud syncing to be a backup, and just yesterday witnessed someone in the grief stage when they deleted a load of photos to save space because they thought they would remain in the cloud. They had even clicked through the “delete delete? Are you sure?”.

Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by acrefoot on Monday September 28, 2020 @11:24PM (#24623913)
To be fair, Dropbox works pretty well as a backup (with the ability to restore deleted files via the web UI), as long as you catch it in the 30 day window.

When I worked there, I was surprised to learn that they also often act as mitigation for ransomware attacks (they could roll back your account in time if you contacted CS and explained your situation).

Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by Scapeghost on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:00PM (#24622631)
Usually, after I complete a major project milestone, or do a lot of housekeeping (computerkeeping), or just when I feel like it's too been too long since the last manual full disk snapshot, I tend to do one.
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by lostlogin on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:44PM (#24623730)
I do this with my firewall. I’ve been caught out by making a seemingly minor change before saving a config then breaking everything.

It’s almost been enough to get me to have a test LAN and real one so as to maintain household tranquility.

Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by PostThisTooFast on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @03:18AM (#24624973)
Doesn't Backblaze delete copies of volumes that you haven't accessed in a certain amount of time?
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by lostlogin on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @01:04PM (#24630265)
Yes. It’s 30 days. Way too little imho.
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:19PM (#24622311)
By snapshot I mean filesystem snapshots as implemented by zfs and btrfs. So functionally they're snapshots, but space usage wise they're incremental backups.
Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by rsync on Monday September 28, 2020 @11:17PM (#24623875)
Actually it's sort of halfway between ...

Which is to say, a block-based snapshot is very efficient - your snapshots only take up the space of the blocks that have changed - regardless of which files those blocks make up.

A hard-link based snapshot scheme is also fairly efficient for most use-cases - the snapshot only uses space equal to the files that have changed - even if those files only changed a little bit.

For most use-cases, I find the difference is negligible. However, if you have large files that change by small amounts, a block based scheme (a la zfs) is much more efficient.

Re:APFS changes in Big Sur: how Time Machine backs up to APFS by jbverschoor on Monday September 28, 2020 @11:09PM (#24623836)
I’ve seen too many TM corrupt itself (wifi). It’s nice for the TM “feature”. Quickly going back. But it’s not reliable as a backup solution.

Also, at a certain point it just can’t keep up with the changes.