Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by daveFNbuck on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:07PM
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Are there a lot of systems that define arctangent but not pi?
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Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by kens on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:33PM
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The cheap Sinclair Scientific calculator (1974) was rather primitive, so instead of storing constants internally, it printed constants such as e and pi on the case. The calculator was rather inaccurate, so you were much better off using 3.14159 from the case than computing 4×atan(1), which gave 3.1440.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by taylodl on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:50PM
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It'd be interesting to see their implementation and the trade-offs its designers made.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by kens on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:24PM
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I'm glad you asked :-) I reverse-engineered the Sinclair Scientific calculator, documented its code, and built a simulator: http://files.righto.com/calculator/sinclair_scientific_simul...
The short answer is that they used a 4-function calculator chip with just 320 words of ROM and managed to reprogram it into a cheap scientific calculator, a remarkable feat. The tradeoff was that the calculator was very slow and inaccurate.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by taylodl on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:47PM
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That's amazing! Thank you for sharing!
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by taylodl on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:43PM
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C/C++ don't define PI but have an atan function. According to the TIOBE Index for September 2020 (https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/) those languages are both in the top 5 of languages used by developers.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by votepaunchy on Monday September 28, 2020 @05:42PM
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C++20 defines mathematical constants including Pi.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by taylodl on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @07:44AM
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Thanks for the heads up! I haven't been paying any attention to C++20. You must be on the cutting edge of C++ to know that - I ended up having to work a bit on my Macbook Pro to get a version of gcc working that defines std::numbers::pi.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by saagarjha on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @01:52AM
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They don’t but POSIX requires M_PI.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by xioxox on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @01:17AM
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Yes - Fortan doesn't have a built-in pi constant, but does have trigonometric functions. Usually programs define pi based on atan or some other trig relation.
Re:How Many Decimals of Pi Do We Really Need? (2016)
by gandalf013 on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:24PM
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bc calculator doesn't (or didn't) define pi, but has atan. I've used "4*atan(1) method" in bc to get pi.