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Re:[email protected] by CydeWeys on Sunday September 27, 2020 @05:10PM (#24610152)

Interesting, and makes sense, seeing as how the Web didn't yet exist when domain names were first invented, but email did. It does make sense that they were thus represented in a manner catering to that use case. In hindsight I guess we'd prefer if emails were backwards too, e.g. com.gmail@cydeweys

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Re:[email protected] by m0dest on Monday September 28, 2020 @05:11AM (#24614603)

This is ironically what’s become popular for service-specific usernames (“on twitter @dan” and “on instagram @danny”). It’s arguably more useful than the email notation because prefixing with the @ is a clear sign that a username is coming next.

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Re:[email protected] by still_grokking on Sunday September 27, 2020 @06:03PM (#24610495)

Only that the @ ("at") reads terribly than.

So com.gmail/cydeweys maybe?

Or it could be just an object in a global namespace (accesses through a protocol specific facade). So com.gmail.cydeweys

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Re:[email protected] by CydeWeys on Sunday September 27, 2020 @06:09PM (#24610526)

You could easily just use a different symbol, or pronounce it differently. We think it makes sense the way it is now, but that's only because we've all collectively gotten used to the meaning it has in email addresses. If it had had a different meaning all along then that would make sense to us.

com.gmail.cydeweys doesn't really work because you need some way to distinguish that as an email address and not just a subdomain on com.gmail. So it really does need a different delimiter, like how you need a different delimiter in URLs when it switches from the domain to the path (and then also to the querystring and fragment).

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Re:[email protected] by cestith on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:27AM (#24616933)

'@' was used to mean 'at' or 'each' for a long time before email addresses. Often in pricing. '12 @ $3' means twelve units priced at $3 each. It's referred to sometimes as 'commercial at', including its Unicode name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_sign

It was used as 'at' in computing in Algol 68 where it was a shorthand for a keyword 'at'. It has a different application as 'at' in Dyalog APL.

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Re:[email protected] by CydeWeys on Monday September 28, 2020 @01:57PM (#24619431)

It wasn't remotely as familiar to a broad audience back then as it is now, though. Considering that people accept its non-idiomatic use for website user names even now (which is the same as what I'm proposing no less), I don't think this would be a problem.

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Re:[email protected] by cestith on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @10:25AM (#24708549)

Using your example with left-to-right domains and needing a delimiter, one could build a URL structure for mail that changes the protocol but not the path.

https://com.google. for the main page

https://com.google.mail for gmail

https://com.google.mail/localpart for one's own gmail account

mail://com.gmail/localpart to send mail to what is currently [email protected]

Alternately, we could continue to use '@' and put the localpart first. The URL method of specifying a username or username and password does this for HTTP/HTTPS.

http://username:[email protected]/login

And currently we use mailto:[email protected] but we could use mailsend:[email protected] instead.

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Re:[email protected] by basch on Monday September 28, 2020 @12:34PM (#24618453)

I would prefer it to read more like UUCP routing. com.twitter@dan

The other nice thing about this system, is that you can drop the domain when the communication is internal.

And if you really wanted to, you could force the communication protocol xmpp//com.twitter@dan vs smtp//com.twitter@dan

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Re:[email protected] by bigiain on Sunday September 27, 2020 @10:40PM (#24612430)

Then of course the web would similarly use

http://[email protected]

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Re:[email protected] by CydeWeys on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:59AM (#24615670)

The domain name should definitely still be first. And there are benefits to using a different syntax for domain names than for email addresses, so you can differentiate the two when they're presented out of context (e.g. on a business card or ad).

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Re:[email protected] by bigiain on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:28PM (#24622826)

I was mostly just making a joke about the suggestion that email addresses should look like "com.gmail/cydeweys" from upthread...

But I could _kinda_ of make an argument for it. When I open my browser, I want to go to "the homepage of the company running New Your Times, so [email protected] - or perhaps the menu from French Laundry - [email protected]

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