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Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by hinkley on Saturday September 26, 2020 @03:44PM (#24601575)
First, take a deep breath.

"Senior Developer" is a heavily diluted term at this point. You can generally only count on it meaning 3 years experience. It's effectively code for "did not wash out".

The problem here seems to be that you are in fact a Lead Engineer, not a Senior Engineer, which does have some pretty hefty expectations associated with it. You feel like the blind leading the blind.

If you want to go back to being 'just' a Senior engineer, then you need to do what the rest of us do when we are objectively or subjectively good at something that makes us uncomfortable or unhappy.

You lie by omission.

Downplay the leadership responsibilities of your position on your resume, so you look like someone who can be groomed into a lead role instead of expected to do it from Day 1. You'll get to backfill some of your experience along the way into that role, or they'll leave you alone.

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by umvi on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:05PM (#24601708)
Seems like every job title is heavily diluted. You have to look at (job title, company) as a tuple. I've known Senior Principal Engineers in companies I've worked for who would not be able to make it past L4 at google.
Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by nullsense on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:53PM (#24602032)
The bar for the same title is set differently depending on the company size / scale their products operate at.

It's generally awarded on your level of skill and responsibilities relative to your peers in the company, and not the industry per se.

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by notimetorelax on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:37PM (#24601900)
Anecdotally: smaller the company higher are the titles.
Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by chrisseaton on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:23PM (#24601809)
> "Senior Developer" is a heavily diluted term at this point.

I think some companies are starting to call all graduates at least 'senior'. Like how almost everyone at a bank is called a Vice President.

My first job before I even graduated was 'senior'. Of course I wasn't really senior in any regard.

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by josalhor on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:41PM (#24601943)
After just 1 year of college experience, I got accepted into a company as a senior engineer. At some point, I debated whether or not I should write that into my resume and decided against it.

Even though I proposed and started my own project inside the company, I would not call myself a senior engineer. Funnily enough, the value I added to the business may have been more than some of true seniors would have brought…

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by Spooky23 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @06:37PM (#24602724)
Bigger, older orgs did that to shift salaries up when the market went wacky in the late 90s.

Your average data processing guy in a non-tech company was probably two corporate notches lower in 1990 as compared to 2020.

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by qzw on Saturday September 26, 2020 @09:15PM (#24603442)
Obviously it was a College Senior position, with the visibility of the "College" part set to hidden.
Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by throwaway16011 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @05:32PM (#24602324)
> "Senior Developer" is a heavily diluted term at this point. You can generally only count on it meaning 3 years experience. It's effectively code for "did not wash out".

Ha, I recall a link to a blog post on the subject here on HN very recently. It certainly struck a cord with me.

> The problem here seems to be that you are in fact a Lead Engineer, not a Senior Engineer, which does have some pretty hefty expectations associated with it. You feel like the blind leading the blind.

This is totally correct. It's been more pronounced since we hired an engineer who had a short tenure at a FAANG. While I believe there is rough parity in how we model and build software, there's a huge gap in our understanding of devops and systems architecture. I am a painful bottle neck in that area and I am sure the engineer in question feels the same.

Re:Ask HN: I am “trapped” in a senior engineering role, how ... by acs88 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:29PM (#24601847)
Also can say something like "not looking for a new lead role, want to get hands dirty and grow in a new team environment".