josalhor
> If OAI is using chat data from researchers to make discoveries, essentially every researcher who chats with an LLM can get scooped
But they make very clear that they do train on this if you do not disable the setting. We can comment on the fact that this is opt out instead of opt in, but this discourse of OAI sniping the solution out of some researchers hands seems to be running on the best case speculation of the researchers having perfectly handled all their chats and discussions with other researchers and the worse case of OAI not having full pipeline control and I think that is an unfair assumption.
> While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models
I mean... yeah? What do you expect? What else can they say? How could you prove a negative in this case? I do not want to comment on specific OAI employee chat messages, but on the actual OAI discovery here.
What I am saying does not exist period. What I am saying is that there isn't a proper abstraction that helps the ecosystem build upon it.
> But I think the parents post is suggesting YOU CAN BUILD a prototype of what you want, how it should work, on Linux
I mean, yes. But me saying "this does not exist" and someone saying "but you can build it" does not take away from the fact that... Yeah, it doesn't exit :).
And also, no, I cannot build it, at least not alone. Because I want apps to eventually build upon my abstractions. This would require a good set of millions, of which the technical development would be a small part. The coordination, contracts, API definitions, even marketing, etc would be the majority.
I am saying something that Google, Telefonica, Microsoft etc could do.
But what if Chat completion was resolved locally with hardware? Or what if I want my OS to coordinate Chat completions locally and, if my hardware is overwhelmed, send some to network?
You do have a valid point, yes, that what I am saying, without support for local hardware could be done with a sort of Open Router equivalent.
> they don’t need to pay separately (they can use the same account), they just pass their API key over the network to the completions server
That I would be conformable putting what I am saying on my parents phone. I do no trust my parents to manage API keys. What I am saying is an ecosystem thing, not only a low level thing
I am saying I want my OS to expose APIs like it does for the disk or the network for AI. And I want my apps to be able to use those APIs.
I want my backend LLMs to be able to change on a whim. Imagine an Android app consuming from these LLMs. Maybe I am outside and it is making queries to Gemini. And maybe I get home and now it makes queries to my local llm, almost like connecting to local Wifi.
What I am saying does not exist on many levels:
- Agreed upon APIs for this don't think exist (in text maybe, but not in image/sound/video).
- OSs do not expose this (I am not talking manually configured user space stuff here).
- I see a world where your Network provider bundles "calls + data plan + AI tokens". But not only are the offerings for these not standardized, in order to even reach that point we would need to standardize the offerings. How do you compare intelligence among models? How do you compare cost?
- The apps need to start adopting this model
The tech is here, the ecosystem is not.
You can see how certain articles have the option to check "how that particular article was at each moment in time". That would be way harder to track, but it would be awesome if not only could you "go back in time and see what the law was" but also "how its been evolving".
I have always thought that expressing it like that instead of f(x) ∈ O(g(x)) is very confusing. I understand the desire to apply arithmetic notation of summation to represent the factors, but "concluding" this notation with equality, when it's not an equality... Is grounds for confusion.
If current tech appeared all of a sudden in 1999; I am sure as a society we would all accept this, but slow boiling frog theory I guess.
I have never daily driven an Apple device, so I can't comment on this; but from what I seen I do agree that Apple UI has not been as consistent lately.
> ps I assume by the opening image, you mean the first screenshot supplied by the author of the article
Yeah, sorry about that; that's correct, that's what I'm referring to. To remove ambiguity: https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/sequoia_tahoe_textedit@2x...
> How does a list of icons that are used inconsistently, duplicated, used in other places, sometimes used and sometimes not used, not to mention illegible, positioned inconsistently, go directly against the broad (reasoned) rules of the Apple HIG, help 'make it easier' as you say?
Sure! First of all, I'm only commenting on the FIRST image of the blog. There are no duplicated images in it. The icons appear consistently used in that image (maybe export to PDF looks a bit off, but this is a pattern that I have seen repeated on other apps, so I'm used to it). I'm not sure how the icons would look on the actual display, but they look alright on my 4K display as shown on the blog. I also can't comment on they being used "inconsistently" across other parts because I don't use Apple devices.
I'm making a very narrow claim: On the first image, if I compare the menu on the left, with the menu on the right, I prefer the menu on the right. I have tried to "find X" on a menu on the left and then repeat a similar exercise on the right; I am faster on the right and I am more confident on the right. My brain seems to be using the icons as a "fast lookup" and the text to verify the action.
Now, does this translate to all other menus? No! The "File" example he shows is super confusing. Also, it's possible I would prefer the less cluttered version with less icons. But for me (all icons) > (no icons) on that specific example.
I have not put enough mental energy to agree with the author on all of his individual suggestions across the article, but they look overall fine on the individual examples he provides. I'm just find the first example... not particularly compelling.
> Well - that's just your --- opinion, man
Well... Yes. But unless we objectively measure how I use the computer, that's the best we have got to evaluate my preference.
All my classes on human-computer interaction and design has always been about "listen to your users".
Sure, we can debate about the general points.
Yet, we can't refute that my subjective opinion evaluation of the opening image looks better (for me) , reads better (for me) and is easier (for me) to parse. Either I don't fit the general guidelines, or the general guidelines need a revision, that's my point overall.
The article starts with this: > Sequoia → Tahoe It’s bad
And I look at the image... And I like it? I agree with the author that it could be better, but most of the icons (new, open recent, close, save, duplicate, print, share etc), do make it easier, faster and more pleasant for my brain to parse the menu vs no icons.
Again, I don't disagree that you could do it better, I just disagree with the premise that the 1992 manual is "the authority". Display density has increased dramatically; people use their computers more and have been accustomed to those interfaces, which makes the relationship of the people with the interfaces different. Quoting a 1992 guideline on interfaces in 2026 feels like quoting the greeks on philosophy while ignoring our understandings of the world since then.