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Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by sokoloff on Saturday September 26, 2020 @10:29AM (#24599107)
> When you connect the phone to the dock with monitor connected over HDMI, power consumption jumps by 4W. [raising a battery draw concern which is only rated to 6W]

Why would you be running on battery while connected to the dock and an external monitor?! That seems like doing some math without thinking about the practical mechanics of being docked.

Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by Filligree on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:09PM (#24599814)
It doesn't matter.

There should be nothing an end user can do without disassembling the phone that can make it catch fire. If there is, then someone will do it. And personally, I wouldn't think twice about connecting the HDMI without connecting the power, for five minutes, to get hold of some document.

I don't own a Pinephone, and from the looks of this debacle I never will. It doesn't seem that OSS is safe to run in safety-critical contexts.

Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by tlamponi on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:43PM (#24600131)
> I don't own a Pinephone, and from the looks of this debacle I never will. It doesn't seem that OSS is safe to run in safety-critical contexts.

Sound rather limited, almost stupid.

OSS runs in various safety critical software, FreeRTOS, also Linux and various other projects run in very critical environments, far more critical than a smartphone.

https://scholar.google.at/scholar?q=open+source+software+in+... https://scholar.google.at/scholar?q=linux+in+safety-critical...

You know that something is OSS allows letting anybody check this out in the first place, do you really think a proprietary phone is safe from this? There are many reports about iPhones and other smart phones catching fire each year.

Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by sokoloff on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:32PM (#24600011)
If the HDMI doesn’t work unless the dock is plugged in, then it absolutely does matter.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24599735

Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by izacus on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:36PM (#24600053)
That's pretty standard if you have a HDMI dongle that doesn't also provide power supply. Of course people do that and HW needs to handle it.
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone by linmob on Saturday September 26, 2020 @11:57AM (#24599735)
Yes, I did not get my dock to work with my monitor without even plugging the dock into power.