Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by zajio1am on Saturday September 26, 2020 @08:56AM
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Seems to me that main difference is that with PinePhone and FLOSS we can see such issue. It is hard to say how many non-free phones have similar hacks. Considering the usual state of embedded software, i would guess that many.
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Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by t0astbread on Saturday September 26, 2020 @09:03AM
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Are there safety regulations or certifications for this? If so do smartphones usually pass them and does PinePhone pass them?
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by jolux on Saturday September 26, 2020 @10:12AM
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There are an enormous number of regulations around this, if you look at all the regulatory markings on most electronics. UL and Intertek being the biggest ones for electrical safety. I really hope Pine64 has gotten those certifications.
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by notatoad on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:22PM
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AFAIK one of the reasons phones typically leave logic like this in a binary blob on an IC is because the certification bodies stipulate that not only does a device have to comply with safety standards, but it can't be trivially modifiable by an end-user to violate those standards.
If you're marketing a phone where one of the advertised features is the ability to change the operating system, and the operating system is responsible for enforcing electrical safety, i don't really see how that's certifiable.
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by SahAssar on Saturday September 26, 2020 @02:42PM
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That's usually for radio emissions, not for stuff like thermals.
Radios are much more regulated.
This is the Pinephone's CE certificate:
http://files.pine64.org/doc/cert/PinePhone%20CE%20RED%20Cert...
Would be fun to see what of those articles are safety related, and what do testers test for actually.
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by ColanR on Saturday September 26, 2020 @11:39AM
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I wonder, if pinephone were to sell a version that was an ikea-style assemble-it-yourself kit, would that still require those certifications?
Re:Let's talk about safety of Pinephone
by sinepsinep on Saturday September 26, 2020 @10:18PM
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CE and CCC are the most important as they cover Europe and China.