People expect technology to suck because it sucks

Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by leetcrew on Friday September 25, 2020 @11:51AM (#24591083)

I for one fully expect the backspace button to work if I do not currently have a text field focused. once you learn keybindings for an application, there's usually no way to perform that function as quickly/efficiently with a mouse. please do not break the conventional ones.

ctrl-s is probably fine to break though. even when it does "save" the page, it rarely does so in a useful way.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by LolWolf on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:00PM (#24591183)

On Mac the other default for navigating backwards is Cmd-[, if that helps any! (It's also a default in many applications for navigating backwards in whatever sense the app may intend.)

I don't use Windows other than for gaming, so I'm afraid I don't know if there are other shortcuts other than backspace.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by jmholla on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:13PM (#24591333)

Alt-Left is back and Alt-Right is forward. Sadly, their equivalents on Mac are also for navigating to the beginning and end of the line so if you're in a text box you lose that control.

Your alternative is handy. I wonder if it also works on Linux.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:30PM (#24591531)

Command-[/] for history navigation and command-{/} for switching tabs are macOS conventional keybindings that work almost anywhere there’s a concept of history or tabs.

they may work on Linux in an attempt to support Mac users.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by alsetmusic on Friday September 25, 2020 @04:45PM (#24593924)

This is backwards. Mac OS inherited EMACS keybindings.They work in dialogs, etc.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25275598/a-list-of-all-e...

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:02PM (#24594054)

I could be wrong, but I don’t think these are emacs keybindings: although, the Cocoa text input system definitely is heavily influenced by emacs, both in design and in this sort of detail.

The emacs-derived keybindings use Control on macOS, the Mac ones use Command

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by leetcrew on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:09PM (#24591284)

fyi, you can get pretty far on the basic shortcuts subbing ctrl for cmd.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by marcosdumay on Friday September 25, 2020 @01:42PM (#24592208)

Oh, I fully expect CTRL-Q to close my browser window (with all the tabs) when I mistype CTRL-W. That doesn't make it any good.

Do you know at all times what element has the focus? An error there can be of high consequence. (Even though browsers do make an effort to refill forms on page forward, it doesn't always work.)

It is a very bad shortcut, and there's always an alternative one anyway, because it's not always available.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by edanm on Friday September 25, 2020 @02:05PM (#24592461)

Fwiw, on Chrome in Mac, you can configure it so that pressing cmd-q won't close the browser without holding it for a few seconds.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by ben_w on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:01PM (#24591198)

I’ve just tested on Chrome: backspace on its own does nothing, going to the previous page is bound to cmd-LeftArrow.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by vidanay on Friday September 25, 2020 @01:44PM (#24592234)

Chrome made this intentional change about four years ago. Prior to that, backspace had the described behavior.

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Re:People expect technology to suck because it sucks by leetcrew on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:10PM (#24591295)

I'm one of those holdout firefox users. every day I come across more websites that only work on chrome though :/

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