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Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by reflectiv on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:12AM (#24589312)
And if it were left open ended at the request of people like you...we'd still have compromised systems out there spread amongst normal people as well as within infrastructure and other more critical pieces of hardware.

People cannot be trusted to upgrade. It REALLY IS good to force people to upgrade.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by cartoonfoxes on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:46PM (#24593438)
>People cannot be trusted to upgrade. It REALLY IS good to force people to upgrade.

This is such a stupid, frustrating argument to hear.

Pro and Enterprise shouldn't be the same in this regard as Home but often are.

Four days ago I had to entertain a courier waiting to pick up a 6-figures piece of equipment for a waiting air-freight cargo plane, for immediate transport to a remote mining site, all because the fucking piece of shit fucking Win 10 Enterprise on a very expensive rugged laptop decided to hang itself in an update loop for an hour.

We dealt with different garbage during the Windows 7 and previous eras, yes, but I'm not sure we're better off on the whole. Windows 10 has given a whole new meaning to the "Blue Screen of Death".

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by reflectiv on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @09:29AM (#24638508)
> This is such a stupid, frustrating argument to hear.

Reality is often frustrating, I agree.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:25AM (#24589433)
> People cannot be trusted to upgrade. It REALLY IS good to force people to upgrade.

The very idea that users should be at the mercy of their computers instead of the other way around is contrary to the concept of personal computing.

People like you are why I hate IT these days. You seem to think that because you have some specialized knowledge about computers that you're smarter than everyone who doesn't. You're totally willing to sacrifice hours of peoples lives, ruin their projects, and break their systems in the name of "I know better". It doesn't matter what they're doing, or how important it is to their lives, what matters is what you think is important.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by cartoonfoxes on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:52PM (#24593473)
> People like you are why I hate IT these days. You seem to think that because you have some specialized knowledge about computers that you're smarter than everyone who doesn't. You're totally willing to sacrifice hours of peoples lives, ruin their projects, and break their systems in the name of "I know better". It doesn't matter what they're doing, or how important it is to their lives, what matters is what you think is important.

A thousand times this.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by reflectiv on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:57AM (#24589725)
It's not about specialized knowledge...it's about regular maintenance.

Hate me or not...but people can't be trusted (broadly) to maintain things...thats just the way life works.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:03AM (#24589788)
Why should they be forced to, at the expense of things that matter to them, though? That's the problem.

Automatic updates were a default. People turned them off because they were annoying. One solution to this problem was to make them not-annoying, but instead Microsoft opted to become aggressive and force people to update.

I will never hold anyone who thinks this is a good idea in high regard because they are actively making the world a worse place.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by reflectiv on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @08:16AM (#24637949)
They have to be forced to because they often refuse to.

It's really that simple...cry about it all you want. It's a necessary evil...because humans.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by oblio on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:50PM (#24594884)
Microsoft forces them because it has to, there is no law for it. To drive a car, the car needs to pass a yearly inspection.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by stjohnswarts on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:20AM (#24596389)
It saves them money in support calls.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Saturday September 26, 2020 @07:57AM (#24598105)
Based on how ludicrously frequently updates are breaking things, this is a dubious assertion.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by ksk on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:43PM (#24591653)
I fully understand the frustration after seeing people having their computers reboot in the middle of presentations and other important events. That's why they made multiple products. Consumer OS = you don't want to be the sysadmin of the computer. Enterprise/LTSB OS = do what you want.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by rightbyte on Sunday September 27, 2020 @07:25AM (#24605837)
I still get forced reboots on my workplace Win10 laptop. I can just postpone the update like 4 weeks. And then stuff brake.