Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by raxxorrax on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:40AM
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I blame Libya on Europe, but the point still stands.
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Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by DyslexicAtheist on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:45AM
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Europe is far from blameless in any of this. Frontex and their deal with Turkey and everything surrounding the management of the crisis is absolutely infuriating. "We" are as bad as the US for not making a stand and even enabling them.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by notaround1111 on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:02AM
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When is Europe going to finally recognize it has agency? Blaming the US for waves vaguely things while being mostly stagnant for decades isn't a good look, especially when you've been either an active participant or wholly complicit in those things.
I have commented this here earlier this week : the EU is a trade-bloc, the rest is posturing.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by DyslexicAtheist on Friday September 25, 2020 @07:07AM
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I hope EU stays a trade-bloc and everyone else considers de-escalating. I also don't trust the EU with too much power. the solution (imho) has to be peaceful - not forcing parties to spend more on defense and grandstanding.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by marcus_holmes on Friday September 25, 2020 @08:40AM
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Now that the UK is not throwing spanners into the works every time the subject comes up, we can expect a Federal Europe to appear much quicker.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by DyslexicAtheist on Friday September 25, 2020 @08:58AM
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UK has always been a voice of reason throughout the years which gave a good balance to the Franco-German domination. The spanners seem to have many times been a blessing in disguise. (I'm pro European).
You make it appear as if that would be a good thing. I disagree.
Which thing are you saying is good, the Uk stopping a federal europe or the creation of the same?
Ahhh, yes, very fair. I disagree with the notion that a federal Europe would be a good thing.
Human language, still a challenge after all these years.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by marcus_holmes on Friday September 25, 2020 @04:23PM
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As a UK citizen, I agree with you (a Federal Europe would be a bad thing).
As a resident of Germany, I disagree with you (a Federal Europe would be a good thing).
Perspective matters.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by mengibar10 on Friday September 25, 2020 @01:22PM
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Libya has an elected government that is recognized by UN. The coup attempt by Hafter is supported by France, Russia, UAE, and Egypt. Rule of (international) law is broken by these countries blatantly.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @01:22AM
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Let's not place UN recognition on too high of a pedestal. See also Taiwan.
Re:Assange Hearing Day 17
by mengibar10 on Friday September 25, 2020 @12:39PM
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I second this, and specifically France started it.