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Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by josteink on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:06AM (#24587988)
> First, it was the first solid (in relative terms) consumer operating system from MS.

That was actually Windows 2000, based on the NT 4 code base. It was near perfect, given the era it was made in.

The only reason I upgraded from Windows 2000 was that Microsoft was extremely reluctant to back-port USB- or WiFi-fixes and support, effectively forcing you to upgrade to XP if you wanted to fully use your modern hardware.

For that reason alone, XP always left a sour taste in my mouth.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by bayindirh on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:23AM (#24588081)
> That was actually Windows 2000, based on the NT 4 code base. It was near perfect, given the era it was made in.

I also remember Windows 2000 fondly. It was really really stable. Even if it looked like it's frozen like a polar ice cap (they weren't melting that bad back then), a short coffee break would give it enough time to normalize itself and continue like nothing happened.

Should retry it in a VM sometime. :)

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by GeekyBear on Friday September 25, 2020 @09:49AM (#24589645)
>It was really really stable.

Windows 2000 was the last version of the NT branch where Dave Cutler was in charge. He's a legend for a reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2GV_bCfnCw

Computer History Museum long form interviews:

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RkHH-psrY Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVgSLud50ss

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by jasomill on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:33PM (#24594329)
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by oxymoron on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:34AM (#24588425)
I stuck with Windows 2000 for many years after XP was released. XP brought absolutely nothing I wanted and a lot of things I didn’t want. All the truly interesting stuff, like WinFS, never made it in.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by boulos on Sunday September 27, 2020 @04:11PM (#24609790)
WinFS wasn’t destined for Windows 2000 nor XP, but rather Vista.

I was an intern at Microsoft in 2004, and personally helped make it clear that WinFS also wasn’t ready anyway. Fwiw, I think the iOS model of “makes users and apps no longer care about directories” has been more successful than the original WinFS plan of “maybe it’s all a SQL-ish database instead”.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by mysterydip on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:14AM (#24588343)
I actually ran a series of them in VMs for years because of their quick response and light resource usage, and they still ran all the stuff I needed. Loved that OS
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by bayindirh on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:56AM (#24588547)
I have a Windows XP VM to run the software for my MD player. You're right, the OS from that era is lightning quick in today's hardware, even in a VM. Also, the USB passthhru is problem-free interestingly.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by mogwai77dk on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:43AM (#24588485)
Windows 2000 was the first rock solid OS from Microsoft, targetting both desktops and servers,but the desktop version was targeted at business users, not consumers. The consumer version at the time was the horrible Windows ME.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by stjohnswarts on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:02AM (#24596318)
Windows NT was -very- solid on good hardware. Would stay up for months with zero issues.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by Joeri on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:57AM (#24588556)
Ha! I had the same with windows 2000 as compared to NT4. I stayed on NT4 as long as I could, and never really liked windows 2000 because it took twice the resources to do the same job at half the speed. Windows XP was 2000 with more (ugly) eye candy and a lot of bloat, so I didn’t like that either, but hardware improved enough that by the end of its reign it was quite fast.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by Gibbon1 on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:25AM (#24588102)
One thing I read when dicking with how USB drivers work is that the Microsoft's first USB driver model was hopelessly broken, so they started over. And that also turned out badly enough that they redid it again. That's what ended up in XP and it mostly worked okay.

You can see why they didn't want to/couldn't backport USB drivers.

Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by bayindirh on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:36AM (#24588162)
Can you provide a source? I love to read that kind of stuff.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by Gibbon1 on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:59AM (#24588285)
I think it's a dead tree source. Might still have it.
Re:Windows XP source code has leaked by bayindirh on Friday September 25, 2020 @06:02AM (#24588294)
Thanks! I like (reading) dead trees tho. I might find a copy or someone might have scanned it.

Edit: Comment made me look like an enemy of forests and trees so, clarified the situation.