Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primarily human attribute

Re:Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primaril... by guerrilla on Thursday September 24, 2020 @05:50PM (#24584103)

You're begging the question. You've defined what humans do as success. It's not even clear that what we do isn't complete failure (see climate change, nuclear war, etc.) Let's see if our actions keep us alive for some 160 million years.

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Re:Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primaril... by read_if_gay_ on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:46AM (#24587553)

So let’s say human behavior is failure, and animals are at least reasonably smart. We’re implying the reason why animals don’t engage in human-like behavior is that they recognize it will lead to things like climate change and nuclear war. Why are they not stopping us from destroying them along with ourselves?

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Re:Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primaril... by guerrilla on Friday September 25, 2020 @11:31PM (#24596200)

No, that's not the claim, only that our "success" is not a good measure of intelligence.

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Re:Crows possess higher intelligence long thought a primaril... by read_if_gay_ on Saturday September 26, 2020 @07:14AM (#24597913)

If the question is whether animals can be deemed intelligent in the same way we humans are, and you define intelligence to be something other than what made humans successful, then the question becomes kind of moot, doesn't it?

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