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Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by leetcrew on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:00PM (#24581465)
argument by analogy is something like A -> B, C is similar to A in all ways that matter, thus (A -> B) -> (C -> D). analogies are powerful when the other person already agrees that (A -> B) and doesn't notice any important differences between A and C. if you use an analogy where the other person doesn't agree that A -> B in the first place, you'll never get anywhere. if they are really stubborn, they will come up with an endless list of reasons why A isn't quite like C, but at least you have a chance of refuting these.

analogies are not very good in arguments where the other person is resisting the conclusion you want to draw. they can be great when you are trying to teach/explain something to someone who trusts you though.

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Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by lotsofpulp on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:14PM (#24581651)
> C is similar to A in all ways that matter

I have never seen this be determine-able in real life scenarios

>analogies are not very good in arguments where the other person is resisting the conclusion you want to draw. they can be great when you are trying to teach/explain something to someone who trusts you though.

This is a great statement to show why analogies are bad and how they are abused.

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Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by leetcrew on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:46PM (#24582081)
I wouldn't agree that analogies are bad, per se. as a sibling to my original comment pointed out, an analogy is essentially an informal isomorphism. this is a perfectly valid way of proving things in math, and it can often lead guide you to valid conclusions in mathematically grounded fields like physics.

>> C is similar to A in all ways that matter

> I have never seen this be determine-able in real life scenarios

this much I can agree on. when discussing human issues, analogies should be understood to be solely a rhetorical device, useful for persuading people, but not so much for getting to the truth of the matter.

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