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Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by asou on Thursday September 24, 2020 @01:49PM (#24581320)
It's not an intentional trick to force you to keep paying.

The vast vast majority of people have access to a Windows PC or Apple product. How you ended up in this edge case I'll never know.

To take this to it's logical conclusion, what if you don't run JavaScript on your browsers. Would they also need to give you a cancelation page which doesn't require JavaScript.

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by Aldo_MX on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:22PM (#24581758)
How about this? An email reminder N days in advance of the charge date with a cancel link.

Companies get regulated for a reason, and facilitating the cancelation of subscriptions sounds reasonable to me.

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by damnyou on Thursday September 24, 2020 @05:34PM (#24583954)
Apple does send those emails, but the link to unsubscribe simply doesn't work on Linux or Android. It's the most absurd thing.
Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by damnyou on Thursday September 24, 2020 @04:41PM (#24583348)
Of course you should be able to cancel without requiring JavaScript.
Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by asou on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:49PM (#24585786)
Alright, after returning my iOS device I became Amish.

I fully expect Apple to cancel my subscription via Mail and refund me back dated to when the letter was post dated !

My point is Apple isn't doing this on purpose to you, you're just in a very strange use case

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by damnyou on Friday September 25, 2020 @01:21PM (#24592018)
Yes, Apple should let you cancel by mail. And the web.

You keep making these claims that I'm sure sound more outlandish to you, and I think all of them are quite reasonable.

The purpose of a system is what it does.

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by asou on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:36PM (#24593342)
How many users as a percentage do you think are signing up for IOS services , discarding their IOS devices and then don't have access to a Mac or Windows PC ?

Very few people use Linux as their desktop is. To be honest they should allow you to reply to the email and allow a cancelation, but you following into an edge case isn't deliberate.

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by damnyou on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:29PM (#24594295)
This also applies if you sign up for, say, HBO from an iOS device. You can keep using the same subscription on Android but can't cancel.

If you subscribe to HBO on Google Play, you can keep using it and cancel it on iOS.

The asymmetry is bad and Apple should be held responsible for it.

Re:Epic, Spotify, and Tinder form advocacy group to push for... by asou on Saturday September 26, 2020 @12:16PM (#24599869)
Good point. I stand corrected. I still don't think Apple is doing this intentionally, but rather as a side effect of it's ecosystem. Thanks for your insight