Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by sigsergv on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:55AM
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"Hillary Clinton runs child porn ring" — is not a fake data, it's a Russel's teapot, you can't fight it with reason. And marking as a fake is a bad move because it inflates notion of “fake”.
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Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by acdha on Thursday September 24, 2020 @08:52AM
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This is true in abstract but most of these claims have details which can be tested. You can’t disprove a perfect conspiracy but you can show that the named people don’t exist or weren’t in the place at that time, the “proof” image has incorrect details (e.g. remember the birthers alleging Obama had a birth certificate which mixed the name and seal of different countries and time periods?).
If it has enough detail to be tested, you can more justifiably mark it as fake. The vague unfalsifiable stuff is much less satisfying for people to spread.
Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by sigsergv on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:32AM
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To some extent, yes. Some fact checks are obvious lies of course, falsified to disprove initial claim (talking from conspiracy theory supporter's side). It's really complicated topic.
Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by acdha on Thursday September 24, 2020 @10:06AM
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Definitely. I just think there’s a tendency to let perfection be the enemy of the good here: there are thorny philosophical issues but the vast majority of this stuff is not that hard to recognize as fraudulent. Facebook and Twitter tried to ignore the problem to save money, not because it was hard.
Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by 101008 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @08:09AM
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Completely honest question, how is that not fake data? Or you think there is a dinstction about fake news and fake data? Would you mind sharing this dinstinction? Thank you!
Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by IncRnd on Thursday September 24, 2020 @08:33AM
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Not the prior poster. The reason it is a Russell Teapot is that the claim is unfalsifiable - it cannot be tested.
Re:Should social networks tell you if you’ve been following ...
by sigsergv on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:19AM
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Yes, they often refer to “facts” that cannot be proved or disproved. You cannot question conspiracy theory because every your claim will be opposed with just created new one. You reason (logically), they think up a new claim. It's pointless process.