"et", "è", "ai" are all pronounced the same. Similar to the "e" in "best".
For "é" and "er" I struggle to find a definite English equivalent sound. Sometimes "a" is close, but it depends on the accent of the speaker. Maybe the best example is just the last "é" when pronouncing "Beyoncé" or "fiancée"
But I pronounce chachet nothing like the e in best. It seems much more similar to a french "é"
This is how I pronounce it:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cachet+pronunciation&oq=cach...
Though you'll be happy to know that where I grew up in Texas, everyone tried to pronounce "croissant" the French way when (and only when) ordering one at a deli counter. But we weren't far from Paris, Texas.
What I said is incorrect, is the parent poster saying it sounds closer to "é" than the sound of "best".
If you can't tell the difference, too bad for you, but that doesn't make you right.
"è" (or "et" in French) is pronounced /ɛ/. Wikipedia will confirm that this is indeed the same sound as in "best" (/ˈbɛst/). https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/best
"é" is not the same sound. It's pronounced /e/ like in "fiancée" (/fiˈɑnseɪ/) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fianc%C3%A9e
> anglicised pronunciation which is correct in English
All the links I have posted are for the anglicised version of the French words.
Cachet is an english word in this context, so how could the English pronunciation be incorrect?
> "è" (or "et" in French) is pronounced /ɛ/. Wikipedia will confirm that this is indeed the same sound as in "best"
Yep.
> "é" is not the same sound. It's pronounced /e/ like in "fiancée"
Also yep. Nobody is disputing you on those.
The problem is when you're saying that the english pronunciation for an english word is incorrect." It can't be. Cachet, in this context, is an english word and this is the english pronunciation.
Just... No.
I don't get it, what is wrong with you people for trying to teach a French how a French word is pronounced?!
"é" is pronounced /e/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-mid_front_unrounded_vo...
"è" is pronounced /ɛ/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_front_unrounded_vow...
The Wikipedia page contains audio samples which are accurate.
"cachet" (phonetically "cachè") is definitely pronounced differently than "caché".
The difference may seem subtle and inexistant for English speakers, but for native French speakers it's definitely different sounds...
I don't understand what is the point of arguing when a native speaker + Wikipedia tell you that you're wrong.
Do you understand? This is the statement that we're saying is incorrect. The english word cachet is not pronounced phonetically "cachè" in english. There is another word, cachet, in french. It is not the same word. It does not mean the same thing. It has a common etymology, but that doesn't make you the authority on its pronunciation.
You are trying to argue with an American how an English word since the 1600s is pronounced!
I was looking at the English wiktionnary but in the French section of the word which mentions /ka.ʃɛ/. The English section indeed uses /ˈkæʃ.eɪ/.
My apologies, you were right.
I'm not telling you how it's pronounced in French, I'm suggesting how I pronounce it in English using French as a reference. I don't really think an accent aigu sounds anything like an accent grave.
I don't pronounce "cachet" as "cachè" but rather "caché".
You are right it's pronounced like "caché" in English. My apologies.