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Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by Galanwe on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @12:45PM (#24568988)
> Which is basically the same way you'd pronounced "caché" in French

Just... No.

I don't get it, what is wrong with you people for trying to teach a French how a French word is pronounced?!

"é" is pronounced /e/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-mid_front_unrounded_vo...

"è" is pronounced /ɛ/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_front_unrounded_vow...

The Wikipedia page contains audio samples which are accurate.

"cachet" (phonetically "cachè") is definitely pronounced differently than "caché".

The difference may seem subtle and inexistant for English speakers, but for native French speakers it's definitely different sounds...

I don't understand what is the point of arguing when a native speaker + Wikipedia tell you that you're wrong.

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by MiroF on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:22PM (#24570868)
> "cachet" (phonetically "cachè")

Do you understand? This is the statement that we're saying is incorrect. The english word cachet is not pronounced phonetically "cachè" in english. There is another word, cachet, in french. It is not the same word. It does not mean the same thing. It has a common etymology, but that doesn't make you the authority on its pronunciation.

You are trying to argue with an American how an English word since the 1600s is pronounced!

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by Galanwe on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @10:11PM (#24574630)
Alright, I concede.

I was looking at the English wiktionnary but in the French section of the word which mentions /ka.ʃɛ/. The English section indeed uses /ˈkæʃ.eɪ/.

My apologies, you were right.

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by arcticbull on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:06PM (#24570694)
lol, I speak French. Québecois French, but still.

I'm not telling you how it's pronounced in French, I'm suggesting how I pronounce it in English using French as a reference. I don't really think an accent aigu sounds anything like an accent grave.

I don't pronounce "cachet" as "cachè" but rather "caché".

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by Galanwe on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @10:13PM (#24574636)
Indeed, I got confused reading the English pronunciation on wiktionnary.

You are right it's pronounced like "caché" in English. My apologies.

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by arcticbull on Saturday September 26, 2020 @01:37AM (#24596691)
Nothing to apologize for! That's what I love about HN, we're all here to learn. Leave the apologizing to us Canadians ;)