China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet

Re:China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:04AM (#24554475)

> The government documents reviewed by Reuters put a strong emphasis on ideological education to correct the “thinking concepts” of laborers. “There is the assertion that minorities are low in discipline, that their minds must be changed, that they must be convinced to participate,” said Zenz, the Tibet-Xinjiang researcher based in Minnesota.

> One policy document, posted on the website of the Nagqu City government in Tibet’s east in December 2018, reveals early goals for the plan and sheds light on the approach. It describes how officials visited villages to collect data on 57,800 laborers. Their aim was to tackle “can’t do, don’t want to do and don’t dare to do” attitudes toward work, the document says. It calls for unspecified measures to “effectively eliminate ‘lazy people.’”

I don't remember the bit in history class where Roosevelt discussed forceful re-education.

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Re:China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet by newen on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:09AM (#24554523)

I don't think you'd want to whitewash Zenz as a Tibet-Xinjiang researcher when he is known to have said that he is on a religious mission against China.

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-...

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Re:China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:17AM (#24554594)

Ok, so maybe the Zenz quote is out of place - I don't know his history, but I don't know think you can disregard the government documents by discrediting Zenz, especially as Reuters explicitly says it's investigated and corroborated some of those claims.

> Reuters corroborated Zenz’s findings and found additional policy documents, company reports, procurement filings and state media reports that describe the program.

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Re:China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet by blkmm on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:44PM (#24558292)

> I don't know his history

Many redditors have revealed Zenz's background. Please see the second half of the comments (top ones are the typical "China Bad" ones)

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ixjuq2/china_for...

What's interesting is that there is censorship in r/worldnews.

After many people exposed Adrian Zenz's background and history, this post with 4k+ comments and nearly 50k upvotes got removed from r/worldnews front page and replaced by a new one with <200 comments and 1k upvotes which nobody got a chance to mention Adrian Zenz yet.

The new one:

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ixhd7x/china_sha...

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Re:China sharply expands mass labor program in Tibet by aww_dang on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:22AM (#24554643)

Attacking the bias and faith of Zenz instead of his argument is poor form. Doing so while linking to "The Gray Zone" is ironic.

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