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Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by tedivm on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @01:52AM (#24551315)
What you are saying doesn't seem to be the reality. Studies show that there is in fact risk beyond just your table.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6936a5.htm?s_cid=mm...

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88543

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by clairity on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:43AM (#24551614)
the researchers' recommendation:

> "'Implementing safe practices to reduce exposures to SARS-CoV-2 during on-site eating and drinking should be considered to protect customers, employees, and communities and slow the spread of COVID-19,' Fisher and colleagues concluded."

which is exactly in line with opening restaurants with modest measures.

the study only provided impetus to look closer at restaurants as potentially not insignificant localities of spread due to self-reports citing slightly higher restaurant patronage in the 2 weeks prior. they declined to put forth any conclusions on prevalence or mechanisms for spread in restaurants because they didn't study those things. they only presented some statistics on the self-reports. that's it.

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by just-juan-post on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @01:58AM (#24551350)
It's easy to point out risk. Anyone can do that.

At what point do we fully re-open? Winter 2022 after everyone has had a mandatory vaccine?

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by vinay427 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:19AM (#24551474)
It's not enough to just point out or dismiss different risk factors as if they're all the same, and both sides of this debate on restaurants seem to be guilty of this in some circles. Evaluating risk, done appropriately, is more complicated and involves at least weighting the risks of specific dangers of different options.
Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:16AM (#24551455)
Is there a particular portion of this study you're referring to? I don't see anything about risk at vs. beyond your table here.
Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by therealx on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:42AM (#24551608)
The CDC just said yesterday that they confirm airborne transmission, and from the case of the choir whom was 6 feet apart, it sure makes it seem beyond one table worth.
Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by 2Crisp on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @08:16AM (#24553587)
"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Monday took down its guidance warning on possible airborne transmission of the novel coronavirus, saying that the draft recommendation was posted in error."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cdc-ai...

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:47AM (#24551644)
The question isn't whether it's possible at all. It is, I don't dispute that, but even post-vaccine we'll never reach a point where it's impossible to transmit the virus. The question is how high the risk is relative to other things.