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Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by vikrantrathore on Monday September 21, 2020 @09:50PM (#24550107)
This is good as a learning exercise and may be result in something useful in future. So for sake of learning and advancement good. As far as claims to replace coconut harvesters, a bit of a stretch to probably attract funding with marketing.

Why not built a mechanical crane with a platform to help the worker to do better job with safety at heights to harvest a coconut and than apply the same for multiple tasks like repairing street lights. Cleaning the building facades and homes, cleaning and arranging work at heights. I believe existing technology can do it.

Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by vamsipk on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:32PM (#24550565)
There wouldn't be much space for a crane to move around the trees which would be spaced around 20 feet each I guess. Even a small crane takes up lot of real estate and also crush everything under its weight.

Maybe a flying drone cutter might work too.

Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by toast0 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @12:13AM (#24550761)
You could probably use a scissor lift; but it's pretty expensive; someone said the trees are 15m, a new scissor lift that goes that high is in the neighborhood of $40k USD, in the US. Most likely more expensive in India.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by dzhiurgis on Monday September 21, 2020 @10:07PM (#24550198)
Crane would be way more complex and something like 50x more expensive.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by vikrantrathore on Monday September 21, 2020 @10:38PM (#24550360)
That’s where the innovation comes up, use materials and structure to bring down the costs. Even if initially it costs higher, it can pay back by it’s multi-use, maintenance, energy efficiency by using mechanical energy applied by human muscle with creative use of hydraulics and mechanical designs.

Usually multi-purpose robots cost way higher and requires more maintenance and costs. Given the average labour costs in India with over 10% unemployment in urban areas and much higher in rural areas created by economic mismanagement for second term by the current government. I believe human labour is more versatile and cheaper, if supported by right amount of technology in India. It’s crucial for its development.

Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by digikata on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:00PM (#24550444)
Along those lines, seems you could design a far simpler, non-electric frame that could be rolled up a trunk with a mechanical cable/waldo cutter for the coconuts.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by vikrantrathore on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:42PM (#24550616)
Yes agree with you there are more than one solution, crane was just one thought. This is thinking out of the box and a cornerstone of innovation. My concern with robotics is sometimes it's much easier to use humans and with application of sufficient amount of technology can be much better. In some cases robots are essential where humans are too difficult to operate. So we need both, but in this specific article they mentioned coconut harvester in India and here there isn't a need for this robot except as learning exercise.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by hooande on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:14AM (#24551442)
You would do better to come up with innovative new jobs for humans to do. It's easier to come up with a new service jobs than it is new materials to build cranes with

Humans can always invent new forms of labor. Limited only by imagination and opportunity. We should be automating everything we can while actively creating new categories of employment for every person

Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by imgabe on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:18PM (#24550517)
Why not just get a cherry picker truck? Those already exist, can be purchased used and drive around from one tree to the next.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by dzhiurgis on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @12:35AM (#24550877)
My hunch the roads aren't super suitable for modern machinery either.
Re:Indian robot climbs trees to harvest coconuts by satya71 on Monday September 21, 2020 @10:21PM (#24550270)
Also the crane probably can't reach 90% of the trees in an orchard (or is it grove?).