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Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by echelon on Monday September 21, 2020 @12:04PM (#24544981)
> Most developers don't work with them, and their customers represent a tiny less "gaming educated" population.

That's a bit insulting. Mario and Zelda are a few of the consistently best game franchises. Smash Bros gamers aren't "uneducated"

> It's like using cellphone games as a gauge on the greater market.

The mobile game market is bigger than the console and PC market.

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by sleepybrett on Monday September 21, 2020 @12:22PM (#24545232)
The switch is also a huge market for indie devs now. Just a crazy amount of indie games in the switch market. Hell one company, Brace Yourself Games, leveraged their game 'Crypt of the Necrodancer' into a connected zelda licensed game called 'Cadence of Hyrule' that just won some awards.

The whole 'Nintendo is a thing unto itself' narrative is fading quickly.

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by Noos on Monday September 21, 2020 @05:36PM (#24548753)
It still is, though.

I mean, a part of the reason why indie titles work there is that Nintendo is refusing to offer a AAA gamepass, is using underpowered hardware and is charging a price premium for it. They very much are resisting trends and are their own thing, and it's kind of hard to really use them as a long term market barometer because it can and will backfire as often as it works.

They also kind of are in uncharted waters too. This is now the first time I think they don't have a dedicated handheld and home console, and just have one platform. A lot of why they were able to survive mistakes was having the handheld market as an evergreen to fall back on.

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by filoleg on Monday September 21, 2020 @02:45PM (#24546925)
>The whole 'Nintendo is a thing unto itself' narrative is fading quickly.

I fully agree with you, but that narrative has started changing only in recent times. Not that long ago, I would have mostly agreed with the premise that "Nintendo is a thing unto itself."

If my memory serves right, Nintendo was dipping feet into it since at least GameCube/Wii era, but only with Switch they started seriously being, in my eyes, a not "unto itself" kind of an entity.