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Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by ehnto on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:38AM (#24544647)
I also quite like a lot of the blockbuster games as well as the indie games. An indie dev will never release a game like Red Dead 2, for one example. I definitely play more indie games, but I would rather the blockbuster market be healthy too.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by cpach on Monday September 21, 2020 @12:12PM (#24545085)
I feel the same about the movie business. Indie films can be awesome, but some kinds of movies are hard to do without a large budget.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by teddyh on Monday September 21, 2020 @02:01PM (#24546450)
Pyramids are hard to build without a super-feudal economy and society. But we got rid of that, losing the practical ability to make pyramids in the process, because we value other things like democracy higher.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by bobthebuild123 on Monday September 21, 2020 @02:26PM (#24546730)
Uhh we still build things like pyramids all the time - Three Gorges Dam, Burj Khalifa, One World Trade Center - it's just we don't build pyramids themselves anymore.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by pengstrom on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:37PM (#24547525)
The Burj Khalifa was notoriously built with more or less slave labour, so maybe not the best example.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by cpach on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:35PM (#24550582)
Or maybe that was part of the point, that unfortunately some large structures are still built by people working under slave-like conditions.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by ethbr0 on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:19PM (#24547984)
I don't think the Three Gorges Dam was built by something most would call a democracy.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by komali2 on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:09PM (#24547183)
Hm. The pyramids were an architectural and supply chain genius stroke considering when they were made. It also took fantastic human sacrifice to achieve that. One world trade center was built with the assistance of trains and semi trucks brining ore to smelters and steel to the construction site, electricity, cranes etc.

Minus the slavery, have we really expended that much human effort and equivalent wealth and time on something in the modern era? The only thing I can think of is Free software products, shit like Linux.

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by TrevorFancher on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:36PM (#24547518)
This is only tangentially related, but because you are all leaning on this pyramid analogy so hard, I thought I would mention that many scholars now believe the pyramids to have been built by some type of salaried (and very skilled) labor. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_constructio...
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by Const-me on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:51PM (#24547672)
Pretty sure Appolo or Space Shuttle both were more expensive projects than the pyramids, even adjusted for inflation.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by maroonblazer on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:45PM (#24547618)
The Large Hadron Supercollider?
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by kingbirdy on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:30PM (#24548095)
> Pyramids are hard to build without a super-feudal economy and society

[citation needed]

The 10th-tallest pyramid was built in Memphis, TN 30 years ago [0] and it's now used as a Bass Pro shop. Say what you will about working conditions in the US in the 90s, but I don't think it'd be fair to call it "a super-feudal economy and society".

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Pyramid

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by sildur on Monday September 21, 2020 @05:13PM (#24548548)
Call me skeptic, but I’m not really sure that pyramid would be able to stand in place 4500 years. Same shape, way less durability.
Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by monadic2 on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:56PM (#24548379)
Yea building a pyramid is easy, you just need to invent the internal combustion engine first.

That said, pyramids seem to have been built with hired labor so the point is pretty muddy regardless.

Re:Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks... by gowld on Monday September 21, 2020 @07:33PM (#24549506)
Huh? Pyramids exist because they are the easiest comparably thing to make. no one makes them because they have better skyscraper designs now and no one cares about making a 4000yr old tomb.

You know what's today's 4000yr long monument to vanity? Elon Musk's orbiting Tesla