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Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by atonse on Monday September 21, 2020 @08:10AM (#24542363)
Apple’s HomeKit Is another ecosystem that doesn’t spy on you. It’s the main reason I picked it even though there are fewer, more expensive devices to choose from.
Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by hellcow on Monday September 21, 2020 @09:32AM (#24543164)
Helpful reminder that Apple still cooperates with the FBI [0]. They famously participated in PRISM and only pivoted to privacy-based marketing after this bad PR. It's also closed-source, so you have absolutely no idea that what you've said is true; they've certainly lied about it before.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...

Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by izacus on Monday September 21, 2020 @02:20PM (#24546672)
For a small cost of being forever locked into Apple's DRM laden ecosystem and where each device needs to carry Apples proprietary authentication chip to make sure you don't accidentally actually own the device.

This is exact opposite for what WebThings stood for.

Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by kalleboo on Monday September 21, 2020 @09:42PM (#24550065)
All the HomeKit devices I have also support other protocols in addition. You can also add third-party/custom devices using HomeBridge. The authentication chip hasn't been required for a few years now.
Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by dolmen on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:35AM (#24544611)
From HomeKit Accessory Protocol specification (https://developer.apple.com/fr/support/homekit-accessory-pro...): "a HomeKit accessory that will be distributed or sold must incorporate the Apple Authentication Coprocessor"

Do you know what the Authentication Coprocessor do?

At least those proprietary processor and proprietary protocol are the opposite of the WebThings approach to home automation.

Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by Angostura on Monday September 21, 2020 @01:08PM (#24545848)
Re:Update on Mozilla WebThings by syshum on Monday September 21, 2020 @10:02AM (#24543565)
Given that is closed source you only have Apple's word on that, and I personally do not Trust Apple at all.

Further their hostility to open protocols, and open systems means I could never adopt them to run my home or IoT system

I have an extreme aversion to vendor lockin when it comes to IoT and I have no desire to tie myself of Apple