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Re:Java Turns 25 – Whats Next? [pdf] by neeleshs on Sunday September 20, 2020 @09:27PM (#24538913)
As a counterexample, springboot is the quickest thing to get start and yet allows you to do complex stuff. I for one, love it.
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Re:Java Turns 25 – Whats Next? [pdf] by Nursie on Monday September 21, 2020 @06:19AM (#24541678)
> springboot is the quickest thing to get start

What do you mean by this? Startup times, or developer onboarding?

Because I've had this conversation before if the latter. To me, Spring seems like the last gasp of "Enterprise" Java. Too much is implicit and obscure (aspect-oriented programming is an anti-pattern, IMHO), too much is configured (yuck, XML).

Each to their own I guess.

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Re:Java Turns 25 – Whats Next? [pdf] by neeleshs on Monday September 21, 2020 @12:04PM (#24544976)
Developer onboarding. Have not used XML for springboot in ages. And aspects - very very rarely if at all.
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